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  •  the govt. (Sebelius) did overpromise (0+ / 0-)

    I didn't say it here, but i have certainly said it before. As for Gitmo, the military is on a separate list and has nothing to do with civilian programs.

    "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

    by Greg Dworkin on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 08:55:58 AM PST

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    •  So in other words (0+ / 0-)

      the factual basis of the ad is correct.  Conservative ignorance of "viral evolution" has nothing to do with the Obama administration failing to follow through on its promises.  (Sebelius promised????  Democrats seem to have come a long way since "the buck stops" at the Oval Office.  Like it or not, Obama is the president.)

      And the military being on a separate list is a red herring.  There is a perfectly reasonable explanation (in a nutshell, the logistics of vaccinating the military most efficiently will include inoculating the detainees as well) why the detainees are getting the vaccine, possibly before a large number of Americans.  But the fact remains that Gibbs implying that it's not going to happen, when in fact it absolutely will is another less than factual statement from the White House concerning this whole affair.

      To sum up, it isn't conservatives' fault the White House gives them so much ammunition.

      •  out of context facts are not factual (0+ / 0-)

        they are truthy.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Fri Nov 06, 2009 at 10:01:21 AM PST

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        •  OK... (0+ / 0-)

          So much of politics is truthiness.  That isn't much of a defense.  Both parties engage in it.  It's called 'spin' in other contexts.  The central fact the ad highlights is that the Obama administration promised 120 million doses by October, and didn't even manage a quarter of that amount.  No amount of ad hominem changes that.

          Speaking of truthiness, I'd be curious to hear your position on Rep. Grayson's assertions concerning all the people dying in Congressional Republicans' districts.  It's based on his own back of the envelope calculations and based on a single study.  Or about the supposedly saved or created jobs numbers that seem to be a little, um, inflated. (Bogus or fraudulent also come to mind)  Grayson's numbers are about as reliable as Iraq WMD reports, and a large percentage of "saved or created" numbers are out and out fabrications.  I'll take truthiness anyday over that.  At least at the core of truthiness is, you know, truth.

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