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  •  Casey released a statement (11+ / 0-)

    yesterday which indicated he was not interested in moving from the status quo towards more restriction.  Not sure why he needs to draft an amendment to merely confirm Hyde, however.

    •  Because the applicability and sufficiency of Hyde (0+ / 0-)

      has been under relentless attack.  Restating Hyde explicitly in the new context, is probably a necessary piece of Kabuki.  

      EXTENDING it, however, is unacceptable.

      "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

      by lgmcp on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 11:48:22 AM PST

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      •  That's good! (6+ / 0-)

        After we get through this latest assault, let's get rid of Hyde, finally.

        Remember, if Government can MAKE a woman bear a child, someday Government could PREVENT a woman from bearing a child. Same diff constitutionally.

        by Catskill Julie on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 12:06:17 PM PST

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      •  Really? (0+ / 0-)

        Could you tell me precisely who has been "relentlessly attacking" Hyde, except those who obviously felt that it didn't go far enough?

        It sure hasn't been our side.

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        by shanikka on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:03:12 PM PST

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        •  Certainly it is opponents (0+ / 0-)

          of abortion rights who feel that Hyde is inadequate.  Unfortunately SOME of those opponents wear a "D" next to their names.  

          So it is a little confusing, when we say "our side" ... sometimes it means our party, sometimes it means who will vote for any healthcare reform, sometimes it means who will vote for hcr with a public option, and now it means, who will defend us from the coathanger amendment.

          "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

          by lgmcp on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 03:04:02 PM PST

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          •  I Should Have Been Clear (1+ / 0-)
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            There has been no meaningful fight waged to mitigate the Hyde Amendment ANYWHERE on the Left since Harris v. McCrae was decided in 1980.  Indeed, the only reason it's coming up now is that folks who are opposed to Stupak-Pitts are justifying it as a totally appropriate "fall back position".

            Which makes me sick.

            If you don't stand for something, you will go for anything. Visit Maat's Feather

            by shanikka on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 03:24:13 PM PST

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            •  It's a sucky fall-back position (0+ / 0-)

              and it's disgraceful that women reliant on publicly funded health services have long lacked the access available to others.  

              But if we've tolerated it for thirty years, and now we're about to lose EVEN MORE, I'm afraid it still IS our de facto fall-back position.

              "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

              by lgmcp on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 04:25:36 PM PST

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              •  We Agree to Disagree (1+ / 0-)
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                Poor women have borne the disproportionate brunt of our country's hypocrisy long enough.  Perhaps, if some folks normally exempt have to suffer too, they will get off their asses (since 30 years is long enough) and fix the problem from root to branch.

                If you don't stand for something, you will go for anything. Visit Maat's Feather

                by shanikka on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 04:41:34 PM PST

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