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  •  If we can kill it, great (0+ / 0-)

    If we can't, let's not kill healthcare over it?  Can we all agree on that?

    "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."

    by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 02:07:38 PM PST

    •  no (0+ / 0-)

      I don't agree, and I don't appreciate your willingness to sacrifice women's choices for some weakassed INSURANCE bill.

      •  I don't appreciate your willingness to sacrifice (0+ / 0-)

        the health of women, children, and men, who would be helped by this bill even if it doesn't cover abortion.

        You will have the choice to get an abortion it just won't be covered by government subsidized medical insurance.  Given the choice between having to pay for abortions out of pocket and having to pay for all medical care out pocket, I'd rather just pay for abortion, and not all other kinds medical care too.  Why do you have a problem with that?

        "I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."

        by Futuristic Dreamer on Tue Nov 10, 2009 at 04:19:31 PM PST

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        •  for starters (0+ / 0-)

          I have to wonder why you aren't asking why this amendment needed to be in the bill to begin with?

          There are private insurance plans that cover abortion. This amendment would remove that from PRIVATE plans.

          I'm sorry that you are more concerned with this amendment, which was written by rightwing religious nutcases, with every intention of making an end run around Roe v. Wade. The Hyde Act ensures public money won't be used for abortion. This amendment isn't necessary. Hyde covers it.

          So, instead of selling your sisters down the river, why not ask why this has to be in there at all?

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