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  •  We cannot raise the retirement age. (2+ / 0-)
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    denise b, Catatonia

    It's already up to 67 for late boomers.

    Sure, take it up to 70, because people are living longer.

    Then, who the hell is going to hire them in the years between 45 and whatever ridiculous age it's changed to?

    People who talk about raising the retirement age must have either never been poor, never worked a blue collar job, or are delusional enough to think that anyone who really wants to can save enough to retire on working a minimum wage job all their lives so they don't need Social Security.

    Not to mention all the 70-year-old waitresses and bricklayers and other manual laborers with knees that are shot, hips near breaking, vision so bad they can't drive, who will be doddering around the workplace, in danger of hurting themselves and everyone else, while they wait out hitting that magic number.

    "The difference between the right word and the almost-right word is like the difference between lightning and the lightning bug." -- Mark Twain

    by Brooke In Seattle on Thu Nov 12, 2009 at 11:12:22 AM PST

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    •  By the way people are NO longer living longer (1+ / 0-)
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      seancdaug

      That's old news.  It hit a brick wall and is in reverse - at least in America!  Our longevity rating has been rapidly decreasing.  Why would that be?  Poor access to health care.  I think the insufferable pricks figured out a long time ago how to deal with the "baby boomer crisis"?  Screw everyone's health care over so baby boomers die sooner.

      At any rate, raising the retirement age is a ridiculous non-starter.  We should have raised the salary cap years ago.

      No more Blue Dogs -- join PCCC.

      by noofsh on Thu Nov 12, 2009 at 11:17:34 AM PST

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    •  Hold on there (0+ / 0-)

      I didn't say I support raising the age.  But they will do that before they actually cut benefits.  Or, they'll cut projected benefits to younger workers.  They will not cut benefits to people currently on social security, probably won't touch benefits to people over 60.  And I am poor.  Right now.

      •  If young people have any sense at all (0+ / 0-)

        they will strongly resist cuts to their benefits and resist the idea that they'll never get SS. Benefits should in fact be raised. The past 10 years has amply demonstrated that most people cannot accumulate the nest egg necessary to finance their own retirements. Social Security benefits large enough to survive on are necessary for everyone, now and in the future.

        "There -- it's -- you know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror." --GWB

        by denise b on Thu Nov 12, 2009 at 08:45:35 PM PST

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