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  •  it's not that children NEED the vaccine more than (1+ / 0-)
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    it's just the emotional reaction of the public is louder when you talk about dangers to kids.

    "My God...think of the children...the CHILDREN!!!"

    I don't think anyone's GAINING from, maybe, since that sort of thing rattles viewers more.

    •  yes, they do (1+ / 0-)
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      Anyone under the age of 35 has no previous exposure to H1N1 in circulation and therefore has no crossover immunity.  Children are more susceptible to influenza complications.  So I, being 32 and no previous H1N1 immunity, am at less risk than a 5 year old who also has no H1N1 history.  But I'm less protected than a 45 y.o. who lived during the last H1N1 period.

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      by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 08:18:10 AM PST

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    •  Well my point was... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...the virus seems deadlier to adults, yet the vaccine is restricted to children so the wrong group is getting it. Perhaps I am simply factually wrong and it is equally as deadly.

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      by MNPundit on Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 08:20:31 AM PST

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      •  there are two important factors really (0+ / 0-)
        1. previous immunity/exposure to H1N1
        1. risk factors

        I've covered number 1 already.  #2 is all the usual things like immunosuppression, HIV, cancer therapy, etc. as well as lung problems and obesity.  The adults being affected fall into this category.  There tend to be a lot more adults who have managed to become obese or damage their lungs which is contributing to a large supply of 'at risk' adults.

        Children fall more into the first category but of course there are children with asthma and other lung problems as well.  Also children are more susceptible to secondary lung infections for various reasons which is the actual cause of death related to H1N1.  That's why children are constantly being referred to as 'at risk'.

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        by pullbackthecurtain on Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 08:32:15 AM PST

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        •  Thank you. N/T (1+ / 0-)
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          by Greg Dworkin on Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 09:28:18 AM PST

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        •  Yes, and just to expand a little (1+ / 0-)
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          it isn't just kids with asthma or chronic respiratory problems that are at increased risk. Kids with neuromuscular diseases like muscular dystrophy and cerebral palsy are dying at much higher rates than healthy children and accounting for a lot of the pediatric H1N1 deaths.

          Also because there are such high rates of autoimmunity among kids these days there are millions of kids on immunosuppresive drugs that make them more susceptible to complications and the secondary infections that are causing a lot of the deaths in kids.

          And there is also a childhood obesity epidemic in this country.  I wonder if they've collected stats on kids to see if this is a factor for increased hospitalizations and deaths in children as well as adults.

          I know our county for several weeks only distributed vaccine to kids under 3 and kids with medical conditions that put them in the high risk category.  I think they've just recently expanded the eligibility category to include children of any age.

        •  It would be more helpful to address the numbers (0+ / 0-)

          of children dying from H1N1 vs. adults dying of H1N1, instead of implying that the adults who die deserve to die more than children do. Even if that were true, it doesn't address the disconnect in saying that even though the flu is more lethal to adults, let's all just keep saying that it's more lethal to children.

          I have heard that one reason children are prioritized is that of all groups they are the least likely to practice preventive hygiene consistently, for obvious reasons, and therefore present a disproportionate risk of transmission to themselves and everyone else.

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