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  •  i hate when george will or bill maher (2+ / 0-)
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    Tweedledee5, IreGyre

    complains incessantly about obama's ubiquity. as if he's some sort of narcissist. he has to do it because the media drowns him out!!! dont they get it?!

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    by robertacker13 on Fri Nov 13, 2009 at 11:49:57 PM PST

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    •  As though he gets flack either way (1+ / 0-)
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      To survive in the current media environment, Obama has to project-- which then tags him as a showman.  I just don't get it sometimes, it's in the history books that we came together back in 1933, despite the divisions that were still simmering then.  Just seems like the wingnuts have pushed us decisively apart in the years since.

      •  even though i have a lot of criticisms (1+ / 0-)
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        i agree that obama is mesmerizing to watch on the political tightrope. at many times, he is sometimes a really masterful politician who takes the long view, and definitely not some showman. and the wingnuts will lose in the end. they're already eating each other up in florida.

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        by robertacker13 on Sat Nov 14, 2009 at 12:00:40 AM PST

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        •  That's always my most consistent solace (1+ / 0-)
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          Obama really does have long-term strategy in mind, though he keeps his cards close to his chest-- which is why he frustrates the wingnuts at every turn, who consistently underestimate his subtle farsightedness.  

          The NY-23 situation was a political masterstroke.  Hard to know if Obama had every detail planned out, but he manipulated the Republicans like marionettes on a string when he chose Owens' predecessor for that appointment.  He was thereby able to take what had been a simmering internal GOP feud, and cast it wide open by pitting the Teabaggers against the remaining sensible Republicans.

          Obama is truly brilliant in his intuitive grasp of political and strategic subtlety, and given the media superficiality these days, I'm sensing that most commentators won't "get" this until after Obama leaves office.  He's been a master at tapping these subtle undercurrents since his Chicago days, and he's probably figured out the GOP's ultimate weakness right now-- in allowing Rush, Beck, and Palin to steer the party, the Bluebloods unleashed a monster that they can't control.  And it's inherently self-destructive for the Rethugs, since the very anti-intellectualism that they espouse, also makes it impossible for them to sensibly coordinate strategy, pitting the ideological purists against the party officials.  As you say, Florida is prime terrain for this, as is Illinois, CT, CA and probably most of the nation soon enough.  

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