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  •  51% of America has a pre-existing condition (12+ / 0-)

    This is incredible.  And I confess I wasn't even aware of the gender discrimination in health insurance until this whole debate got started.

    Women need to use their numbers at the ballot box to shut this shit down.  It's simply unconscionable.

    •  They're Beaten By the Time of Nomination (9+ / 0-)

      Elections are too expensive to be funded by people. The overwhelming majority of national reps need corporate funding and they're not often going to permit tampering with business in a major way. As we're seeing now.

      We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

      by Gooserock on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 05:29:33 PM PST

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    •  It's my understanding (7+ / 0-)

      that behind the fire and fury over single-sex bathrooms, it was the insurance industry that defeated the ERA.

      Time to haul it out the ERA and go at it again. We've only been trying to get this simple principle of equity recognized since 1923.

      •  It just might work today. (1+ / 0-)
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        In the 1970's the ERA was a radical, revolutionary idea, even after all those decades of women's advancement.  We men are in fact stubborn creaturs of habit that like things the way we like them but we're getting better as the generations pass.  Bring it up again now, I say.  I think that opposition will have fallen away considerably...

        No politician ever lost an election by underestimating the intelligence of the American public. PT Barnum, paraphrased...

        by jarhead5536 on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 07:35:48 PM PST

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    •  Is this fixed in the (3+ / 0-)
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      health care bill?

      •  Re: Is this fixed in the healthcare bill? (0+ / 0-)

        The House version of the healthcare bill bars insurance companies from denying, changing or reducing coverage based on "pre-existing conditions." This does not go into effect until 2013 though, as far as I know (although it may depend on the state you live in?).

        Republicans have repeatedly said that they also want to make this change, but in their version of the healthcare bill, Americans with pre-existing conditions would still be left out to dry. "Pre-existing conditions" insurers have used to either completely deny people or charge outrageous fees for coverage include being a victim of rape, being an expectant father, having acne...even your occupation (ex. if you're a police officer or a migrant workers) can cause you to be labeled "pre-existing."

        If the House version of the hc bill doesn't get passed, perhaps simply ‘being alive’ will become a pre-existing condition.

        SEIU: Dedicated to improving the lives of workers and their families and creating a more just and humane society.

        by Kate Thomas on Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:47:44 AM PST

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        •  yes, sorry, meant (0+ / 0-)

          in the house health care bill...

          I realize pre-existing conditions are going to be eliminated as a consideration for health care.

          I also realize that the Republicans don't see that as needed in their "health care plan"... These are also the guys who tried to present a budget with no numbers and silly flow charts which had little discernible meaning. When that didn't go over so well they presented a budget with massive tax cuts, massive deficit reductions, and no clear idea as to where the savings would come from! I don't really take what they have to say too seriously...

          What I meant was whether the above other concerns...ie women charged more, don't receive maternity care, birth control being apparently harder to get covered than Viagra.. Those sorts of problems.. Are they fixed in the house health care bill?

    •  Re: 51% of America has a pre-existing condition (7+ / 0-)

      You are not alone, FogCityJohn--I think many Americans weren't aware of how far-reaching gender discrimination by health insurance companies was UNTIL this debate. And probably even the people who heard about it or read about it had trouble believing it.

      I mean, being denied health coverage because your insurance company cites your domestic abuse injuries or your c-section pregnancy as a "pre-existing condition?" Insurance companies on the individual market considering pregnancy "optional" and denying coverage?! It sounds too horrible to be happening to women all over the U.S.--only it is.

      SEIU: Dedicated to improving the lives of workers and their families and creating a more just and humane society.

      by Kate Thomas on Tue Nov 17, 2009 at 06:13:21 PM PST

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