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  •  Do you really want to go down that road? (0+ / 0-)

    Because, frankly, you have a couple of uprates of your own that are pretty disgusting.

    Including one where you support the denial of Palestinian identity. So get down from your high horse and look in the mirror.

    Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

    by unspeakable on Sat Dec 05, 2009 at 10:28:47 AM PST

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    •  I have learned since then Jan of 2009 (0+ / 0-)

      from the discussions here, but hey thanks for being nasty in response to me being upset that Daily Kos supports the notion that Jews are an invented identity.  

      •  You're welcome. (0+ / 0-)

        And quit with the martyr act. You were being nasty yourself.

        Fire bad never said she believes that Jews aren't a real people, nor did she deny Jewish identity as you have done with Palestinians in the past. Instead of asking her to clarify, you jumped on her and made nasty accusations about her. I did the same thing to you that you did to her. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

        Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

        by unspeakable on Wed Dec 09, 2009 at 11:20:32 AM PST

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        •  You know what? (1+ / 0-)
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          I got angry.  And?  Nobody here has ever gotten angry and pointed out an uprate?  I don't think FBTP should've supported Christopher in this situation.  I still don't.  I caught up on some recent diaries, when you were angry, you told someone to shove it up their ass or something like that.  Nobody's immune from the intensity of these diaries.  Calling me out for acting like a martyr is just bull and really?  If it were you on the receiving end of being called a martyr for getting mad that people were promoting a book that said Palestinians weren't a people, you would know it was wrong.

          My anger was genuine in response to a number of diaries and comments about Sand's book, some comments of which you uprated.  And so you decided to punish me for being justifiably angry.  Can you say you wouldn't and haven't done the same or worse?  

          If you expect people not to dimish, demean or dismiss Palestinian people and then scold a Jewish person who gets angry when the majority of the I-P posters who aren't Jewish have shrugged off this book.  That a majority here have accepted this book and promotion of it as ok, a book which says that Jewish peoplehood was invented in the 19th century and that today's Jews aren't the real Jews...well, that's up to you.

          I don't know what's up with you lately but in the past we've been able to talk.  I can take it personally, I just don't want to read any more of the really shitty things people say about Jews or the Holocaust or Judaism here.  There are too many things that go over the line, way, way over.  This conversation should be about why this book has all the Jews here so angered, upset, etc., but instead it's about me pointing out an uprate.  Ok fine.   Nice talking with you in the past and good luck to you.  

          •  asdf (1+ / 0-)
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            I caught up on some recent diaries, when you were angry, you told someone to shove it up their ass or something like that.

            Yeah, I was in an argument with that user. I didn't jump on someone and accuse them of things they didn't do.

            If it were you on the receiving end of being called a martyr for getting mad that people were promoting a book that said Palestinians weren't a people, you would know it was wrong.

            The martyr accusation is because of your melodramatic response to fire bad, who again had done nothing to you or anyone else. She uprated one comment by Christopher. Christopher, to my knowledge, did not at any point in this diary comment on the truthfulness of Sand's book one way or another.

            My anger was genuine in response to a number of diaries and comments about Sand's book, some comments of which you uprated.

            I want to see these objectionable uprates of mine. Links, please? This should be good.

            And so you decided to punish me for being justifiably angry.

            This is what I'm talking about when I say "melodramatic." How the hell did I punish you? All I did was call you out for attacking someone unfairly and pointed to one of your own uprates of a comment that directly and explicitly denied Palestinian peoplehood.

            If you expect people not to dimish, demean or dismiss Palestinian people and then scold a Jewish person who gets angry when the majority of the I-P posters who aren't Jewish have shrugged off this book.

            Prove that a majority of the P-I posters shrugged this book off. Prove it. And again I didn't scold you because you're angry at the book. Stop mischaracterizing my comment to you. I called you out for attacking someone who didn't deserve it. The fact that you think that you're ascribing to me positions that I never articulated as a way of trying to make yourself out as a victim is why I'm calling this a martyr act.

            That a majority here have accepted this book and promotion of it as ok

            A majority? Really? Prove that this is true. I'm willing to bet that you can't.

            This conversation should be about why this book has all the Jews here so angered, upset, etc., but instead it's about me pointing out an uprate.  Ok fine.

            Oh please, my first comment to you was #228 out of a total of 245 (soon to be 246) comments. This was well after most people had left the diary. I didn't distract from it in anyway.

            Colorless green ideas sleep furiously.

            by unspeakable on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 12:10:32 AM PST

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          •  Hey (1+ / 0-)
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            I am so glad I was asleep last night when you two had your little spat!  

            :)

            Just wanted to pipe in with words of encouragement for both of you, without getting involved in the substance:

            You are both fantastic people, and you're both right about a lot of stuff.  You'd better be friends by the end of this because we need to stick together, ok?

            Whew.  There.

            Back to my life now.

            Consider adopting a homeless pet at PAWS.org (Progressive Animal Welfare Society)

            by hikerbiker on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 11:34:01 AM PST

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