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  •  I think you don't have a clue (1+ / 0-)
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    mimi9

    about UK FoIA and public funding of universities and research. All of this was subject to FoI in the UK, and they were trying to avoid it, at the edge of legality. End of story. You might think that's wrong but that's our law.

    Brussels Delenda Est

    by Morus on Wed Nov 25, 2009 at 11:09:59 PM PST

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    •  This from CRU proves you wrong. (2+ / 0-)
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      RunawayRose, pontechango

      "The Climatic Research Unit holds many data series, provided to the Unit over a period of several decades, from a number of nationally-funded institutions and other research organisations around the world, with specific agreements made over restrictions in the dissemination of those original data."

      If the data came from outside of the UK, even your wonderful laws can't touch them.

      •  The FoIA covers data held by UK bodies (1+ / 0-)
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        mimi9

        It doesn't discriminate between data from the UK and data from elsewhere: if the data is held by a UK body, it is subject (unless it meets an exclusion like national security).

        The CRU might have made those deals, but English law doesn't recognise them - it says they are still subject, and the CRU is in breach if it doesn't disclose them.

        The data isn't subject to English law, but the CRU is. Sorry.

        Brussels Delenda Est

        by Morus on Thu Nov 26, 2009 at 06:34:13 PM PST

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