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  •  You're assuming that the party elders (3+ / 0-)

    want to go in that direction.  There's ample evidence in support of the argument that they're allowing JoeMentum, Nelson, and Lincoln to keep them from passing a bill that big donors don't like while telling us that they tried their best.  

    LBJ faced far more implacable opposition (largely from his own party) and a 67 vote filibuster when he got both of his landmark civil rights bills passed.  While there are obvious parallels between LBJ's war and the war that Obama has chosen to take over, there are far fewer parallels between their respective domestic policy approaches.

    Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

    by RFK Lives on Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 02:54:07 PM PST

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    •  We need our own version (0+ / 0-)

      of 11 level chess to beat Dem "leadership",be it in the Senate or in Conference.  If we keep the PO in the post conference version, do we have to deal with the Senate rules committee?

      Private health insurers always manage to stay one step ahead of the sheriff - Sen. Sherrod Brown

      by Betty Pinson on Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 03:07:52 PM PST

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    •  It's possible, but I think it's unlikely (3+ / 0-)

      The poll data Markos just put out on the "enthusiasm gap" is devastating.  They know that "telling us they tried their best" on this isn't enough.  They will need to leave Joe Lieberman's brains exposed on the rocks to convince people they tried their best.

      As for LBJ: Dirksen was more moderate than all but a handful (if that) of current Senate Republicans -- and he was probably smart enough to know, if he was interested in being partisan, that passing civil rights legislation would cause much more damage to the Democratic Party (due to the wounds from ripping the Dixiecrats out of the party) than to the Republicans.  The situation here is opposite, where Republicans know that failing to pass good health care legislation hurts Democrats much more than it hurts them -- although this is mostly due to voter inattentiveness and susceptibility to media bamboozling.

      A mess of Bush Admin officials have gotten away with serious crimes! Grab a mop!

      by Seneca Doane on Sun Nov 29, 2009 at 03:15:22 PM PST

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