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    Declan Walsh in Islamabad The Guardian, Friday 21 September 2007

    Osama bin Laden declared war on Pakistan's president, Pervez Musharraf, yesterday, calling on ordinary people to rise against their "infidel" leader in retaliation for the storming by troops of Islamabad's radical Red Mosque in July.
    The fiery denunciation came as election officials announced October 6 as the presidential polling date - when General Musharraf will seek his own re-election despite a mounting protest and a welter of legal challenges against him.

    When Bin Laden talks of current events it places him in that time.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. Dalai Lama

    by ohcanada on Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 10:40:18 PM PST

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    •  What you mention is an audio tape (1+ / 0-)
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      Hard to truly verify who is the speaker.

      •  Voices are unique (8+ / 0-)

        Cain is president of Applied Forensic Technologies International of Chicago and Lake Geneva, Wisconsin, which specializes in voiceprint and audio tape analysis, tape authentication, polygraph examinations and analysis of questioned documents. He has more than 25 years experience in forensic science, including service as an agent in both the U.S. Secret Service and Internal Revenue Service. He was chief of the voiceprint units and senior document examiner for both the Secret Service and IRS as well as chief polygraph examiner for the IRS, with extensive courtroom testimony experience, including California's notorious Hillside Strangler case.Steve CainAs Cain explained in an article he wrote for the Criminal Division of the U.S. Department of Justice — in collaboration with Lonnie Smrkovski, chief of the voiceprint unit of the Michigan State Police and Mindy Wilson, a psychologist and private examiner practicing in Lansing, Michigan — the fundamental principle of voice identification rests on the fact that like a fingerprint, every voice is unique and "individually characteristic enough to distinguish it from others through...analysis

        If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion. Dalai Lama

        by ohcanada on Sat Nov 28, 2009 at 11:12:27 PM PST

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      •  Seems this was actually a video (2+ / 0-)
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        I couldn't find an article on voice prints for this date but this was interesting.  From wikipedia: 2007 Osama bin Laden video

        Questions concerning authenticity

        Several peculiarities in the video raise questions regarding its authenticity:

           * Osama bin Laden sports the trimmer, blacker beard and the same clothing he wore in the 2004-10-29 video.[10][11]

           * The video freezes at about 1 minute and 58 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30.

           * The video then freezes again at 14:02, and remains frozen until the end.

           * All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the US atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen.[12]

           * The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been made before the US invasion of Iraq.

           * It is claimed that the facial features of the person in the video do not correspond to those of the known Osama bin Laden.

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