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  •  I do to because I hope that by increasing (2+ / 0-)
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    troops now we can release a big bang and it will get us out quicker.

    I would rather send in 35,000 more troops now and we get out in 3 years then send no additional troops and we are there for 10 years.

    Get in and then get out!!!

    Obama 7/09: "Don't bet against us" (unless the Dems screw it up).

    by Drdemocrat on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 06:18:17 AM PST

    •  Since when did this ... (2+ / 0-)
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      become a predictable outcome?  The two are not mutually exclusive.  There's no way to know what escalation leads to, other than escalation itself.  That is the only certainty.  Likewise, withdrawal is certain to lead to withdrawal.

      Any other assertion is just fantasy.

      •  De Gaulle escalated the Algerian war with the (0+ / 0-)

        Challe Offensive in 1959.  Then, a few years later, once he had consolidated his political position, he cut and ran.

        I wish I could believe Obama is just setting the stage for a later withdrawal, the way De Gaulle did.  Unfortunately, I have no confidence that that is what he is doing.

        The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

        by lysias on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 07:54:28 AM PST

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        •  Indeed ... we can only hope. (2+ / 0-)
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          The fact is, Obama started saying almost three years ago that Iraq was "taking our eyes off the ball" and that the real mission was always Afghanistan.  So what he's doing should surprise nobody.  In fact, it's just fulfilling a campaign promise.  (Unusual for any politician)

          But if he applies the Powell Doctrine, then he will delineate clear-cut, achievable goals, a timetable to fulfill them and an exit strategy.  I think that this is the best we can hope for.  If the Powell Doctrine is applied and strictly adhered to, then I'll support Obama's efforts.  

          But if the Afghanistan issue remains unresolved, open-ended, fuzzy or dependent upon the questionable progress of the corrupt Karzai government, then Obama loses my support.

          Time will tell.

        •  Afghanistan is not a US colony (0+ / 0-)

          Algeria was a French Colony for nearly a Century.There were different reasons for occupation. We invaded because we were attacked, The French were there to stop the revolution for independence.

          I am already known as VirtualTruth, times have changed and so has my cause. The Far left can not become the new radical far right

          by Liberal Reality Check on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 09:38:27 AM PST

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          •  I suspect Afghans would disagree with you, (0+ / 0-)

            about whether or not Afghanistan is presently a U.S. colony.  There can be no doubt that it is under U.S. occupation.

            I remember back in the days of the Vietnam War how government figures kept insisting we would have success there where the French had not, because we were not colonizers.

            The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

            by lysias on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 11:32:49 AM PST

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          •  Oh, and the French argued that Algeria (0+ / 0-)

            was not a colony, but an integral part of Metropolitan France, represented in the French government.

            The influence of the [executive] has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.

            by lysias on Tue Dec 01, 2009 at 11:33:55 AM PST

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