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  •  I would have difficulty overlooking it (3+ / 0-)
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    greatdarkspot, shrike, Norm DePlume

    and apparently the jury did too. I could see small changes in one's story that might occur under a long, intense interrogation. But Knox gave a fairly elaborate story that she later recanted.

    If I was on the jury, I would have weighted that knowledge heavily. It's just hard to discount.

    You seem passionate about her innocence and that's fine. I'm saying as an outside observer -- that looks damning.

    •  As an outsider (4+ / 0-)
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      murrayewv, Dobber, boofdah, dewley notid

      You shouldn't even know about it until after the trial.

      No transcripts, no video, no tapes ... just the word of a Prosecutor.

      Damning indeed!

      We do not forgive our candidates their humanity, therefore we compel them to appear inhuman

      by twigg on Fri Dec 04, 2009 at 04:07:35 PM PST

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    •  I hope you never serve on a jury (12+ / 0-)

      Any competent interrogator can make a suspect change their story - any one of them. Any good prosecutor will then harp on that the entire trial "Ladies and gentlemen, the accused changed their story multiple time - obvious proof they are guilty".

      So many innocent people go to jail because of that simple parlor trick.

      •  It's a very simple bait and switch (2+ / 0-)
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        Accused .... I didn't kill the guy

        Interrogator.... If you had, how could you have done it

        Accused .... Given what you told me, I would have stabbed him from behind.

        Interrogator ..... Why did you fall out with the victim

        Accused ..... He was dirty, owed me money.

        Interrogator ..... So, he owed you money, and you hated his habits and, you could have stabbed him from behind.

        Accused ..... I suppose I could

        Ladies and gentlemen of the Jury .... the accused at first denied involvement,  ut later admitted that he could have stabbed the man from behind. We have no tape or video of this evidence, but the accused has clearly lied and changed hi story.

        We do not forgive our candidates their humanity, therefore we compel them to appear inhuman

        by twigg on Fri Dec 04, 2009 at 04:19:33 PM PST

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      •  One of the reasons for juries is that they know (0+ / 0-)

        the reputations and bad habits of their prosecutors and their own take on whatever evidence is placed on the record. This was a a jury verdict. It's the jury verdict here that's the issue. I would hope that the defense attorney made a motion to dq the prosecutor and for a new trial as part of this.  

        Lest we forget, though, Italy is not a common law system with its presumptions of innocence and the like but is a civil law system with a different set of assumptions and presumptions, descended from the, ahem, Romans. That it even has a jury is a surprise to me.

    •  They suggested things to her over and over (1+ / 0-)
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      this "Interrogation" technique with a room full of interrogators and a frightened sleep deprived young woman is completely wrong and guaranteed to give the interrogators whatever they want... they make someone say maybe to this and then another thing and step by step they construct a set of lies that they claim the suspect admitted to. No transcript, recording or video... it's whatever they say happened. She was not fluent in Italian then and had trouble understanding everything other than she was frightened.

      Pogo & Murphy's Law, every time. Also "Trust but verify" - St. Ronnie (hah...)

      by IreGyre on Fri Dec 04, 2009 at 04:22:04 PM PST

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