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  •  Government IS force (0+ / 0-)

    that's all it is in the final telling. Any government health care plan, publicly funded that is, is done so under the ultimate threat of violence. That is, although I don't agree with it, My savings, earnings, property, are confiscated from me to fund it. No private citizen could force me into any similar arrangement, but the government can. The key word being force.  

    This is an identical process to funding and persecuting wars. Are you in favor of being forced through taxation into participating in wars? They are undertaken, we're told, for our the common good, to help us and keep us safe. Depending on who is speaking and who is listening, any given war is just as noble and necessary as health care, so why can't I take your money, using the government as my agent, and force your participation with this cause that I'm passionate about?

    •  yeah, I meant prosecuting wars (0+ / 0-)
      •  Are taxes themselves wrong? (0+ / 0-)

        Must they require 100% agreement?  Congratulations--you've just yanked the rug out from modern society.  The threat of coercion doesn't increase with the amount of money taxed--the power to tax alone gives it that.  Most of us, however, understand that these things are necessary.  Sorry you don't give the rest of us that level of credit.

        The '60s were simply an attempt to get the 21st Century started early....Well, what are we waiting for? There's no deadline on a dream!

        by Panurge on Mon Dec 21, 2009 at 05:39:59 AM PST

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