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  •  Sure would have been great... (4+ / 0-)

    If instead of validating their opponents disingenuous criticisms, and legitimizing the spread of lies by not mounting a defense, the President and Congress had bothered to actually take a strong position as to what they believed in - that being real reform and the PO - what the crisis demands, and used some of their access and power to inform the public.

    Can we imagine where support would be then? If our "leadership" had actually mustered the courage to lead?

    Slap happy is a platform.

    by averageyoungman on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 02:19:47 PM PST

    •  **Sigh** (7+ / 0-)

      Sometimes I think Obama trusts our system TOO much.  If he's willing to sign whatever gets passed, no matter what it looks like, he's basically allowed the money interests to write the legislation.  

      I wonder if he knows that.

      Save the parrots: Drink shade-grown coffee!

      by oscarsmom on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 02:22:39 PM PST

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      •  Of course he does. (3+ / 0-)

        Barack Obama is quite intelligent.  These are choices based on his principles.  He believes that a bill without a PO still is a net good and that it is all we can get given the senate.

        He knows the game is rigged.  He is trying to work within the rigged system to get incremental change.

        "Free your mind & your ass will follow" Parliament Funkadelics

        by TomP on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 02:30:58 PM PST

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        •  Then logically... (5+ / 0-)

          One would have to assume that his complete lack of advocacy for legislation that would have represented real reform was predicated on a fear of offending the private insurers, or a historically naive belief in the idea that they would be parties to a reasonable consensus, or make sacrifices.

          There are so many problems with this, not the least of which being the fact that, given the power the President holds in the context of influence when he chooses to assert his authority and knowledge - see poll numbers on Afghanistan after he gave an authoritative, confident speech (policy I don't agree with) - he shot himself square in the foot as it related to using his exceptional communication skills to make a case for real reform and passage. What he lost there is immeasurable. People want to be lead, and there is nothing more frustrating and perceptibly weak than a President who appears afraid to lead.

          Slap happy is a platform.

          by averageyoungman on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 02:41:12 PM PST

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      •  I have to imagine he does (4+ / 0-)
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        And personally, I think it's because this whole process was designed to play the margins and attempt to replace the Republicans as the party in corporate favor. Keep just enough support to maintain a thin majority, pass a bill that looks to the casual observer as something moderately positive, and in reality deliver billions to the corporate interests you are attempting to woo. Another failed attempt at a "permanent majority." I hate saying it, but it has Emanuel written all over it, and the really bad thing for them is that not only does it look like they are going to fail, it looks like they are going to fail on both counts - losing the corporations and losing the base, and maybe even completely losing the ability to pass anything given the trajectory they are on now.

        Slap happy is a platform.

        by averageyoungman on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 02:31:07 PM PST

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    •  i'll guess 75%. nt (1+ / 0-)
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