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      Cheney in an undisclosed location with his finger on incriminating electronic surveillance obtained by violating FISA laws.

      The uninsured keep dying. Death to AHIP!

      by DWG on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 03:12:02 PM PST

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    •  The 'nuclear option' was for (7+ / 0-)
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      judicial appointments only.  The right wing wants a lot of things, but what they want the most, even if they have to go nuclear, is to get right-wing judges appointed to lifetime positions on federal courts.  Judges can help with many other objectives, such as blocking recounts so a Republican with fewer votes than a Democrat can become President.

      Progressive Democrats, either in the U.S. Senate or elsewhere, need to decide what we want the most, and to insist on an up-or-down vote, even if we need a favorable parliamentarian ruling to break a filibuster.

      Something that has separated Democrats from Republicans in recent generations is that Democrats favor a social safety net so that even the neediest among us can get a survivable level of government entitlements.  Social Security, Medicare, S-CHIP and other programs were generally opposed by Republicans at the time of their inception; they were against Medicare before they were for it.

      Republicans were ready go to nuclear to get up-or-down votes for Bush's ultraconservative judges.  Democrats could take the bold step (which I believe would assure them of electoral majorities for years to come) of painstakingly reading the Senate by-laws and finding a loophole which can be interpreted as saying that if an American citizen is suffering and needs help from the U.S. Government, cloture requires 51 votes, not 60, and a final vote can take place.

      Barack Obama in the Oval Office: There's a black man who knows his place.

      by Greasy Grant on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 03:20:33 PM PST

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