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  •  reconcilliation is not THE solution. (2+ / 0-)
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    indres, polar bear

    but part of it.  

    You would still need regular legislation for the regulatory stuff.

    These days, politics only serve to give people an excuse to be assholes.

    by DawnG on Thu Dec 10, 2009 at 03:57:05 PM PST

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    •  Wouldn't they just filibuster the main bill? (2+ / 0-)
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      askew, Micheline

      Harry Reid hasn't even been willing to talk about using reconciliation, but the more I think about the more I see serious problems with splitting reform into two bills, especially in the 24-hour news cycle Twitter political reality we're operating in.

      Let's say he rams through the public option first and then puts everything else into a separate bill that can be filibustered.  The warning we'll be hearing from the Libermans and Ben Nelsons of the world is -- "By doing this, we're going nuclear.  We're going to filibuster the main bill unless you put in all kinds of crazy provisions to undo what you just did."  Reid couldn't allow the nightmare scenario of an orphaned public option, so he'd be forced to add in all sorts of crazy provisions to appease any and every holdout.

      Let's say he tries to pass the main bill and then use reconciliation just for the public option.  By excluding the public option from the main bill, he's letting the entire world know ahead of time that he plans to use the reconciliation process later to fill in the gaps.

      The Conservadems will then filibuster the main bill on the grounds that doing so will kill the public option.

      What Harry Reid (and to a lesser extent Obama) should have done a lot earlier in this process was make threats.  Dig up the dirt on Lieberman's mistress or some real estate scam he pulled back in the 90's, threaten to strip them of seniority and chairmanships, or whatever.  Once Reid made clear he was a spineless weasel and that there'd be no ramifications for breaking ranks, he gave up all his leverage at the negotiating table.

      It pains me to say it, but I think we need to pass the weak-ass compromise legislation as it is, wait ten years for premiums to skyrocket killing thousands, and then pass a real reform bill.  They blew it.

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