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  •  I did not jump to anyone's defense (1+ / 0-)
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    Paul in Berkeley

    neither his nor yours. I think you mis-read him and I think he wrote something that was very poorly thought out.

    Look at you, jump to the defense of a segregationist racist like oldskooldem. Tell me, do you agree that Judaism justifies humiliating me?

    Of course it does not.

    Notice I said this:

    Now as far as Israel's security - OSD is right when it comes to general security. Checking everyone'sbags in public places, grenade netting on buses, calling in lone packages to bomb squads and so forth I believe and so forth ARE legitimate.

    Notice the word EVERYONE - that does not say just Palestinians it says E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E.

    Further note this:

    When I was in last in Israel EVERYONE was subject to certain security measures. I found these to be necessary. OSD in his anger though did not clarify his meanings regarding security and by calling nathan a racist triggered nathan's own reaction.
    When though people are evicted from their homes in East Jerusalem or are prevented from going to work in collective punishment that is security that may not be worth the price.

    That hardly sounds like a ringing endorsement of profiling now does it?

    But, speaking of birth-rates, I look forward to the day when Palestinians out-number Israeli Jews, and they demand equality, and the racist system that oppresses them is dismantled. You guys are on the wrong side. All of you.

    This is exactly what we are talking about - thank you for making the case for progressive Zionism. If the current Occupation continues that is exactly what will happen, that's why a two state solution based around Taba is necessary to preserve a Jewish Homeland and Democracy.

    So I can see why Progressive Zionism bothers you more than Likudnikim. It is not because "they supposedly are what we really are like". It is because you know if we (Progressive Zionists) win out your wishes WON'T come to pass. When I say your wishes I mean - a secular democratic State combining the peoples.

    This is an option we know won't work, there won't be peace. We are too different not have different states.

    You misrepresent a lot in this thread and you are welcome to that. But you are not going to get your One State - not at this point in history. Perhaps when the world has moved past petty bickering and religious inspired mayhem (All people suffer from that) maybe.... But not now, and not for the foreseeable future.

    In that future though - I do agree with you ultimately it would be good. Just it is the wrong thing at the wrong time.

    Some times you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

    by volleyboy1 on Sat Dec 12, 2009 at 08:26:48 AM PST

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