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  •  The biggest challenge... (4+ / 0-)
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    ...is to our ability to think in multiple time-scales at once.

    If humans could easily conceptualize 500-year spans and integrate them into our planning, we wouldn't be in anywhere near the trouble we're in.

    Our emphasis on short-term thinking has had and will have disastrous consequences — consequences analogous to environmental degradation caused by NIMBY thinking: "Just dump the garbage in the ocean and we'll never have to think about it again."  We're saying, "Just dump our problems in the future and we'll never have to think about them again."

    I'm going to make a bumper sticker that says:

    .......THINK IN CENTURIES........
    .......ACT IMMEDIATELY.......

    Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

    by WarrenS on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 08:03:00 AM PST

    •  Don't think we're capable as a species (3+ / 0-)
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      ...of planning for centuries, with rare exceptions.  

      Our limit of future planning seems to be about one human lifespan after our deaths, basically the lifetime of people we will actually meet before we die.

      In the DKos debate of a center-left vs. center right country, my vote is for "profoundly conservative".

      by Bronx59 on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 08:13:20 AM PST

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      •  I think it's possible... (2+ / 0-)
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        ...but it will require an epistemological retooling of a magnitude and complexity analogous to the retooling required of our energy and environmental thinking.

        This is one of the reasons we are planning on homeschooling our daughter.  The schools teach semester-long thinking...terrible precedent.

        Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

        by WarrenS on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 08:22:44 AM PST

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        •  Teach to the test ... (3+ / 0-)
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          Get through the NCLB-mandated mediocrity testing rather than focusing on how to have thinking and capable individuals for helping solve problems in a dynamic environment.

        •  Will your daughter be able to function with what (0+ / 0-)

          you are planning to teach her....she will be a fish out of water if she ever needs to work in the corporate world.  They work in monthly,quarterly and annual cycles.  I not defending it but it is the reality.

          "When fascism comes to America, it'll be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross." Sinclair Lewis

          by lakehillsliberal on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 10:48:51 AM PST

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          •  By the time she is an adult... (0+ / 0-)

            ...the corporate world will be almost done destroying itself and the planet.  

            Our only hope of survival as a species is to get much better at long-term thinking than we are; the planet does not need more short-term thinkers.  

            The only time I ever had to work in the corporate world was when I was an office temp in the late 1980s.  I put on protective clothing and did the gig while hiding my loathing for my overlords, and if she really needs to get a job in the belly of the beast she can do the same.

            Freedom isn't "on the march." Freedom dances.

            by WarrenS on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 06:56:00 PM PST

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      •  Planning, no, thinking, yes. (3+ / 0-)
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        But strategig planning on a scale of at least 20-50 years is imperative to solve the problem of global warming and that what COP-15 is about.

        Ask me about my daughter's future - Ko

        by koNko on Sun Dec 13, 2009 at 08:26:55 AM PST

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