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  •  $750 per employee? (0+ / 0-)

    At that rate every corporation in america would gleefully drop health insurance on every single employee. Have you ever seen the insurance bills of a small group? Ignoring large groups entirely whos bills are astronomical. Thats probably an average monthly premium per employee when you average out husband and wife, p&c and family plans. And we wont even get into dep30, cobra etc plans. Ive seen cobra and medicare primary individual bills that are more than what most working class people make. And often.

    •  They don't avoid the tax by dropping coverage (1+ / 0-)
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      See below.  This makes no sense.

      •  I was responding to the comments assertion (0+ / 0-)

        My entire point is that you're being scammed. This is nothing but our worst nightmare..the largest corporate handout in history.  Medical inflation wont drop. Real medical coverage probably wont change as the new race to the bottom minimal legally required coverage will be completely useless and just another siphon on the working classes. Im tired of delusional followers. Seriously sick and tired.

        •  And I'm tired (0+ / 0-)

          Of people who refuse to let a good set of facts get in the way of their disappointment and outrage over the sausage-making of lawmaking.

          •  Ive been actually watching (0+ / 0-)

            the "sausage making" actively for 25 years now. You seem to confuse editorial opinion with "fact". The FACTS are in the bill which doesnt exist yet.

            •  I've been citing facts, friend. (0+ / 0-)

              You've been rehashing the anti-Obama, FDL-approved editorial talking points.

              •  YOu havent posted a damn thing (0+ / 0-)

                but generic editorial blather from a report on something we've never seen. You're simply .. well you're simple. Your deity is being questioned, the status quo challenged and your worldview under attack.
                Now if you actually read the bill, consider it, and have a reasoned outlook on it I would certainly consider that opinion as educated and thoughtful. Instead you're on this "Obama is the divine one! Those who question him must be  destroyed" servile emotion high. Obama is simply a man, not a god. And a man with ideology based in DLC ideas. A man who has fought everything progressives believe in. A man who has made himself a blank slate for the followers to paint their ideals onto. A man who now serves the corporate world, big medicine and the military industrial complex. You are being foolish to think otherwise. Consider his record thus far rather than your hopes for him.

                •  This crosses the line (0+ / 0-)

                  I quoted the CBO report, a non-partisan, professional group of analysts whose JOB it is to analyze legislation.

                  I quoted from the report.  It cites the bill chapter and verse.  THAT is what I quoted from.  

                  Accusing me of "worshipping" Obama is so fucking off base.  I'm through with you, troll.

              •  And no animosity here (0+ / 0-)

                we are merely arguing heatedly im sure we agree 99% of the time.

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