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  •  Interesting idea (1+ / 0-)
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    First, Christians who have read the book of Acts. Second, responsibility for behavior--don't smoke, etc. It would all be in the execution. For starters, what's the response to an AIDS diagnosis--comfort, or looking into sexual or drug practices.

    "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein

    by Tenn Wisc Dem on Sat Dec 19, 2009 at 08:47:52 PM PST

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    •  According to their website, (3+ / 0-)
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      AIDS/HIV treatment is only covered if

      (a) you had a blood transfusion;
      (b) you are a health care worker; or
      (c) you were raped and reported it to a law enforcement authority.

      STD coverage is only in case of (c).

      The assumption is that otherwise, you were promiscuous or used illegal drugs.  I guess if you got it from your spouse, too bad.

      •  which makes this sort of program (6+ / 0-)

        inherent immoral and unchristian to the max. Jesus never asked what caused people to be sick, only that they come to Him and be healed.

        Why yes, I am Catholic.

        by ems97007 on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 12:33:42 AM PST

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        •  Other than the judgmentalism, which is abhorrent, (0+ / 0-)

          the basic idea is interesting and worth considering.  It could work well, and we would of course, reject the ugliness that seems so unfortunately pervasive in certain "Christian" circles.  

      •  How revolting. (4+ / 0-)

        It's nice to be reminded why I want nothing to do with organized religion.

        Silence is consent.

        by Eileen B on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 02:12:04 AM PST

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        •  Please don't paint us all with the same (0+ / 0-)

          brush. There are plenty of us, and always have been, who wouldn't set up that sort of rule.

          But this is a group of folks who aren't intending to be universal and are enforcing "my house, my rules." I am a strong believer in no sex out of marriage (and since that's a church marriage it doesn't matter that a gay marriage isn't recognized by the state), and that rule is enforced in any room I'm paying for. That's not a condemnation of you for having different rules in your house (and, indeed, I've had a lot of practice at that, as you can imagine).

          "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." - Albert Einstein

          by Tenn Wisc Dem on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 01:47:47 PM PST

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          •  It's not about rules, it's about compassion. (0+ / 0-)

            You are more than welcome to your own rules and personal moral code, but, that doesn't mean it's ok to deny another person medical care because they break your rules.

            Even if they agree with you; everyone makes mistakes. Making "a mistake" doesn't mean a person should be denied medical care. A mistake earns you a slow death via insanity with syphilis?

            FURTHERMORE....STDs are not spread strictly through intercourse. Herpes is a perfect example of this; it's skin-to-skin contact, nothing more. Herpes breaks out on faces!

            People should NOT be denied medical care for non-compliance to some arbitrary, flexible moral code. PERIOD.

            Ever.

            Silence is consent.

            by Eileen B on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 08:36:16 PM PST

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      •  Feel the love! (2+ / 0-)
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        Would Jesus turn an HIV victim away if he/she didn't meet one of those three criteria?

        "Take whatever you can, Steal whatever you can't take, Kill what you can't steal so no one else can have it." - Republican Business Philosophy

        by Pen on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 03:08:48 AM PST

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        •  Conservative Jesus would (0+ / 0-)

          Conservative Jesus would also have no problem stoning unmarried pregnant women, the poor, and children with ADD.

          But don't forget that most men without property would rather protect the possibility of becoming rich, than face the reality of being poor. (1776)

          by banjolele on Sun Dec 20, 2009 at 04:48:00 AM PST

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