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  •  no, it comes out of their administrative costs, (8+ / 0-)

    high high salaries for administrators, and profits or reserves for empire building if they are non-profits.

    Since they will be required to disclose their infection rates, you can choose not to go to hospitals that have high rates. They will change

    So do do want to retain the status quo?  That the hospitals are able to continue being compensated for sloppy behavior will continue that sloppy behavior.

    Only 44,000 die from lack of access/insurance but 198,000 are killed by preventable medical errors – like getting a MRSA in a hospital.

    We are in a time where it is risky NOT to change. Barack Obama 7-30-08

    by samddobermann on Sat Jan 02, 2010 at 05:44:02 PM PST

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    •  oh no, I don't want to retain status quo. (4+ / 0-)

      I just don't trust those hospitals to not find some way to pass on the costs for their sloppy practices.

      Believe me, as a cancer patient I am ALWAYS worried about contracting something from the facillities I have
      to visit.

      •  They are now. They frequently get sued when they (2+ / 0-)
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        kill someone off. Or cause loss of limbs etc. If they have family. If they know what to do. If they get a decent lawyer. But that's why they fight for Tort Reform. So poor people can't get lawyers. Even reasonable ones. Not the grandstanders.

        We are in a time where it is risky NOT to change. Barack Obama 7-30-08

        by samddobermann on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 04:45:10 AM PST

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    •  details on the breakdown - errors/infections (3+ / 0-)
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      Experts estimate that a staggering 98,000 people die from preventable medical errors each year. More Americans die each month of preventable medical injuries than died in the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

      In addition, a federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study concluded that 99,000 patients a year succumb to hospital-acquired infections. Almost all of those deaths, experts say, also are preventable.

      From Dead By Mistake

      ~ there is no Planet B ~

      by beverlywoods on Sun Jan 03, 2010 at 07:08:48 AM PST

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    •  Most insurance doesn't allow choice (4+ / 0-)

      I think the above remark needs clarification:

      Since they will be required to disclose their infection rates, you can choose not to go to hospitals that have high rates. They will change.

      Hospitals and insurance companies make deals. Some refuse to pay if you visit an "out of network" hospital. Others plans that claim not to be quite so restrictive, offer discount rates to specific hospitals, meaning you might pay much more than someone else who has an insurance plan which is allied with that hospital. So do we really have a choice of where to go?

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