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  •  The alternative (8+ / 0-)

    is Senator Marco Rubio. And in less time than you'd think, a presidential run by the guy. He's dangerous. Crist is the only person currently in the race that could stop him.

    •  Is Meek too weak to win? (n/t) (2+ / 0-)
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      Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre, mod sceal þe mare, þe ure mægen lytlað

      by milkbone on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:31:24 AM PST

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      •  He certainly hasn't been polling like a winner (3+ / 0-)

        That may be current popular attitudes, or it could be just that Florida really is moving to the right faster than anyone feared.  Or any number of other reasons.

        Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

        by Phoenix Rising on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:36:48 AM PST

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      •  Alas, I think so (1+ / 0-)
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        To say the least, he's a horrible campaigner. He's virtually invisible on local media.  And if you can't finesse the dim bulbs in our local markets, you don't have the skills to win statewide

        Always grateful to wake up alive.

        by Subo03 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:37:23 AM PST

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      •  unfrtunately (1+ / 0-)
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        i think so

        and FL is still a part of the "Southern" coalition.

        Then again if Rubio is the R Candidate
        and Meek is the D candidate

        the FL rednecks are going to have to choose the lesser of 2 "minorities" as their GOV
        Could be very interesting to see the R's divide on their racist bias (immigrants are takin' all their jobs, and they fill up the emergency rooms...ya know), i think a lot of R's will vote for the only
        GWH..Crist...name recognition and all

        i'll be working to get Meek elected...unless someone even better comes along...where is betty castor these days

        Republican Health Care Plan: Stay Sick so we can keep the Insurance Companies Solvent oh and HOPE is Where the Heart is

        by demnomore on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:51:20 AM PST

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      •  Dems are almost ALWAYS too weak to win in FL (1+ / 0-)
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        We never win statewide races. It had been so long, we were almost in disbelief when Alex Sink got elected to state CFO.

        The notable exception is Bill Nelson, and as we all know, he's no liberal. Or even close. And he only had to beat Katherine Harris in '06, which practically counts as a bye.

        Meek has three major things going against him in this state: 1. He's liberal. 2. He's black. Considering that at least half of the state is Rednekkistan, he's going to be in trouble.

        And of course, there's the fact that Democratic turnout will be much lower. He would've had a shot if this were '08, with Obama drawing out young and black voters. Even then it would've been tough.

        I truly admire and respect Meek. He'd be great as a Senator. But sadly, these are the realities of our state.

        "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner) - Infinite Jest

        by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:55:27 AM PST

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    •  Does being Cuban not count as Hispanic for R's? (1+ / 0-)
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      He's young, energetic and handsome like Barack Obama.  But even if he's as conservative as Michelle Bachmann, doesn't the fact that he's hispanic count against him with a significant part of the GOP base?  Or are Cuban's given a pass, as long as they hate Castro?

      Umm, that's PRESIDENT Obama and SENATOR Franken, mr. o'reilly.

      by filby on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:37:58 AM PST

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      •  Cubans in Florida (1+ / 0-)
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        are embraced wholeheartedly by the GOP.  Look at Mel Martinez, for example.  There was also a GOP governor from 1987-91 named Martinez in FL.  He lost to Lawton Chiles.

        "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

        by TLS66 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:43:59 AM PST

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        •  But what about a run for president? (0+ / 0-)

          Is that feasible?  Would it allow someone who is modestly racist to say, "See!  I'm not a racist!  I voted for Marco Rubio!"

          Colin Powell was considered a serious candidate for the GOP nomination in 1996 but chose not to run.  But could even he run in the GOP now?

          Umm, that's PRESIDENT Obama and SENATOR Franken, mr. o'reilly.

          by filby on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:50:19 AM PST

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          •  Powell? No. (2+ / 0-)
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            But that's because he's basically a moderate Republican in the vein of Nelson Rockefeller, Clifford Case, Jacob Javits, Edward Brooke and William Weld. Now, if a batshit insane African-American was to run... for example, if Clarence Thomas was to imitate Charles Evans Hughes in 1916 by resigning his court seat and running for President, I think today's GOP voter would embrace him.  And the same goes for Marco Rubio.

            "Valerie, why am I getting all these emails calling me a classless boor?"

            by TLS66 on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 10:55:34 AM PST

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      •  Florida Cubans get a pass. (1+ / 0-)
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        They're very conservative, since the Bay of Pigs days. They're basically the only Hispanic population that votes Republican. (From what I recall, even the Cuban population in New Jersey votes Dem.)

        And because they get asylum because of Castro, repugs don't consider them the same as Mexicans or Guatemalans jumping the border. (And on the flip side, I don't think Cubans view the immigration debate as their problem, either.)

        I'm sure there are some or even many repugs who hate brown people enough that they won't vote for one no matter the circumstances. But the vast majority would love a Hispanic who's (a.) here legally, (b.) loves the Jesus, and (c.) is arch-conservative.

        "I told them on Inauguration Day. I said look into my eyes: no new enhancements." - President Johnny Gentle (Famous Crooner) - Infinite Jest

        by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 11:04:09 AM PST

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