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  •  Only the Senate parliamentarian decides (2+ / 0-)
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    AnnaMolly, nandssmith

    and you can't break the Byd rule this way. Why do you think the Bush tax cut sunseted? Because again, they increased the deficit more than any of the HCR bills.

    You can't selectively break the Byrd rule. Whetehr the public option is in the bill now matters not, the public option lowers the deficit, and the Bush tax cuts still increase it, still breaks the Byrd rule, still never shoudl of passed in any form, if you respect the rule.

    thanks for the post:

    Interestingly the purpose of the budget reconciliation process seems to have shifted over time. From FY 1981 through FY 1999 the budget reconciliation process resulted in net decreases in the deficit over baseline budget projections every year a budget reconciliation bill was passed10. During these years the budget reconciliation
    process was consistently used to reduce spending or raise revenues, and often for both.
    However from FY 2000 until the present every budget reconciliation process has resulted in a net increase in the deficit over baseline projections, sometimes in amounts dwarfing previous budget reconciliation process11. This shows how the budget reconciliation process has been used for tax cuts in the past decade instead of deficit reduction12.

    Proves my point.

    Selective creative excuses for breaking the rule do not fly IMO.

    Pro Life??? Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers!- George Carlin

    by priceman on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 07:01:57 AM PST

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    •  Again you miss the point... (2+ / 0-)
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      askew, Clem Yeobright

      that the PO after Lieberman successfully stripped the PO from the compromise brought to the floor...the PO was no longer germane to the bill...budgetary issues aside...

      Obama - Change I still believe in

      by dvogel001 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 07:07:12 AM PST

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      •  This point undemines the process of reocncialtion (0+ / 0-)

        because you go back to every committee before this happened, thus making this point false. Reconciliation has always involved going back to every committee.

        So that is simply not true.

        Pro Life??? Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers!- George Carlin

        by priceman on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 08:12:16 AM PST

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