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  •  I am right in this scenario (0+ / 0-)

    It's not likely to happen, but this is exactly why it will take 10 months. It will go back from committee to committee.

    So what do you think the chance of all the insurance company regulations and consumer protections would be if reconciliation would have been used for that...my guess...is nothing would have passed until 2010 elections...

    If that is what you are arguing for...it is possible but not likely to have worked...

    My thoughts are I wish Alan Frumin would interpret our whole health sector monster as fitting within the Byrd rule including the consumer protections and insurance regulations.

    the states can make up for till 2010 as whether they are actually enforced still have some state jurisdiction anyway, this is nto a true national exchange with good enough enforcement mechanisms yet in the age of starind state budgets to relaly matter. States cannot fight huge monopolies in court at this time.

    Pro Life??? Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers!- George Carlin

    by priceman on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 07:50:37 AM PST

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    •  Now that is laughable... (0+ / 0-)

      My thoughts are I wish Alan Frumin would interpret our whole health sector monster as fitting within the Byrd rule including the consumer protections and insurance regulations.

      Let me know what you are smoking...I definitely want to try some...

      Obama - Change I still believe in

      by dvogel001 on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 08:09:30 AM PST

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      •  It's not likely, no (0+ / 0-)

        but Johnathan Cohn has said he would argue that as well.

        But I'm not a fan of creative interpretations of the Byrd rule even with your noble attempt at it.

        The waste from our health care system all relates to budgetary matters as people go to the emergency room and don't get the care they need causing continuing cost inflation.

        How you define budgetary means nothing in the end and it's ultimately germane in the end whether it's defined that way or not.

        I don't think you'll find many Medicare trustees that would say our for profit system is destroying Medicare by sucking off of it through advantage and part D.

        But hey, at least you tried to engage me substantively at first.

        Pro Life??? Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers!- George Carlin

        by priceman on Mon Dec 28, 2009 at 08:23:49 AM PST

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