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  •  No (none)
    I believe the general counsel to the president is the presidents legal advisor.  It may be true that he does not have the usual attorney client priveleges, but so what.  Just don't write down what you do not what others to see, and/or do make public what is going to be done anyway.  

    I just am against people trying once again to not blame George Bush for what actually happened, as if this legal counsel was the policy maker.  He may help initiate the atmosphere for a certain policy, but not the the origins of the desire for such a policy!

    It's Bush or his top level handlers that are to blame, IMO.

    Political censorship is the root of all evil! It is the antithesis to a functional democracy!!

    by truthbetold on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 12:33:12 PM PST

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    •  You are against what? (none)
      I don't follow your comment - did you read the diary?  Geez, your comment is a nonsequitor.  You are fighting windmills of your own creation.

      I'm thinkin', I'm thinkin'

      by Armando on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 12:36:51 PM PST

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    •  But this is in the context of (4.00)
      whether Gonzalez should be confirmed to be the countries most important defender of the law.

      We're building a case that he doesn't have the character to defend it when asked to ignore it.

      It doesn't exonerate Bush, but Bush isn't the focus of the topic.

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      by BooMan23 on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 12:53:15 PM PST

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    •  policy enacted vs. agents of change (none)
      Bush enacts the policy...ok. and w/o Bush none of it happens...ok.  BUT Bush is here and the point is that w/o Gonzales the issue is moot (i.e., who knows how someone else would have performed in that role).

      Check out this human rights policy redux and tell me Gonzales wasn't a major player -- making suggestions and looking a things in new ways, etc.  From what I've seen it's not clear at all that Gonzales was taking direct orders 24x7 -- he's thinking and acting alone to forward an agenda.

      You're talking about the "Buck Stops Here" but Gonzales is an agent of change, on the ground, taking action, pushing forward Bush's agenda to "clarify" human rights.

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      by drh on Tue Dec 28, 2004 at 10:26:12 PM PST

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      •  Going for the jugular (none)
        Bush and his leadership circle have an unsavory and likely unconstitutionalk agenda which they are hell-bent on accomplishing.  Attacking the White House Counsel instead of the forces truly behind this agenda will not stop the agenda onslaught.  George Bush is in the power position that he is in today because his loyal opposition cannot seem to get to him, instead attacking underlings that at the most just resign when the going gets tough.  This still leaves Bush and his power circle to do their thing.  We see this happening over and over.

        I do not really know whether Alberto Gonzales is just trying to keep his job by pleasing the president or is actually in the power circle.  No matter.  If the paradigm of letting the buck go everywhere but where it belongs continues, then much effort will continue to be wasted chasing windmills instead of going for the jugular.  That is my entire point here!

        Political censorship is the root of all evil! It is the antithesis to a functional democracy!!

        by truthbetold on Wed Dec 29, 2004 at 12:07:28 PM PST

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