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  •  what the fucking hell did you expect? (0+ / 0-)

    That Obama would show up and disaster would not only be averted but the economy would turn on a dime?

    That we would just blink and we'd go from * minus 700,000* a month to positive 700,000?

    Really what did you expect Turkana? We just narrowly dodged a depression at the very least comparable to the 1930s if not perhaps worse. So what did you expect? Us to just magically rebound?

    Your entire comment seems framed from the start with unrealistic expectations and unrealistically high standards. Impossible standards in fact.

    See this is why we always lose in the end, we, liberals do not understand the difference between a sprint and a marathon.

    You do not know nearly as much as you think you do Turkana and your self righteous posturing is just hilarious.

    •  the white house said unemployment (1+ / 0-)
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      would peak around 8.1 percent. they seem to have expected something far different than what we have. the economists who said we needed a bigger stimulus, a jobs bill, and cram-down seem to have had a point, didn't they? stick to the facts, drache; it will do you good.

      The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

      by Laurence Lewis on Sun Jan 17, 2010 at 09:03:45 PM PST

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      •  you are a hypocrite (0+ / 0-)

        You tell me to stick the facts when you are seemingly unable to?

        Go to hell please because I will not be lectured at by you on 'sticking to the facts'.

        You back that up with action and then I will take your 'advice' and 'concern' seriously.

        Yes it was projected that unemployment would peak at 8.1 and it didn't but that is at best a non sequitur because you have yet to show it's relevance to your case.

        You tell me to 'stick to the facts' and you can not even stick to the fact that Obama won the largest stimulus ever even after inflation adjustments. You ignore that there was no way to pass a bigger stimulus.

        And frankly all you have done with this comment is move the goal posts, in quite typical fashion on your account.

        •  too funny (1+ / 0-)
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          the economy is what it is, and we who said the stimulus wasn't enough have been proven accurate. unfortunately. you can vent your hysterics all you want. they reveal the hollow core of your attempted arguments.

          The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

          by Laurence Lewis on Sun Jan 17, 2010 at 09:22:14 PM PST

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          •  lmao (0+ / 0-)


            I seem to remember the doom and gloomers screaming that the stimulus was going to be a failure and it wasn't.

            More revisionist history from you.

            The only one revealing themselves is you, both in your factually inaccurate statements, cherry picking of the facts and your blatant attacks on me.

            But it's just another normal 'discussion' for you isn't it?

            Whatever, believe what you want including that the moon is made of cheese for all I care. Go pursue your purity, cut your nose off to show your face who is boss.

            I wash my hands of you and that insanity.

            good night, maybe you'll eventually learn

            •  tell the hungry and the homeless (1+ / 0-)
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              and the still rising number of unemployed and under-employed about the success of the stimulus. i'm sure they'd be interested.

              and yeah- cherry-picking such irrelevant facts as unemployment, u-6 unemployment, foreclosures, bankruptcies, homelessness and hunger. as opposed to the important facts. such as banker bonuses?

              The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

              by Laurence Lewis on Sun Jan 17, 2010 at 09:31:12 PM PST

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              •  I already have (0+ / 0-)

                given that I am under employed.

                I know this is might be a new concept for you but sometimes no matter how much you want to thrash around and attack any thing that moves. Sometimes what is important is not forgetting and not letting your frustration lead you to do dumb things.

                But I am sorry that's going to interrupt your regularly scheduled circular firing squad followed directly by eating our own.

                So I'll let you get back to that, I'm sure you have FDL donations to make to fund another fucked up survey to pointlessly push poll. And other equally self defeating measures to pursue.

                So go have fun with that, me I am done here and am walking away. I got interviews to prepare for, applications to write, phone banking to do and other actual important and productive things to do.

                •  too funny (1+ / 0-)
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                  you continue to prove you can't argue the facts, and you continue to make cheap, petty, straw swipes. whatever works for you, drache.

                  The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                  by Laurence Lewis on Sun Jan 17, 2010 at 09:42:28 PM PST

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                  •  So true. (2+ / 0-)
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                    Turkana, MixedContent

                    In the diary about a cultural tipping point with regard to marijuana, drache decided to pick a fight with me and call me an asshole even though I was in agreement with both the diarist and drache himself. Just to get his perverse jollies, apparently.

                    And as always, always, always, the personal attacks from him and the claims that the other person is wrong, or illogical or a troll (talk about projection) or whatever without ever offering any actual counterargument. It's his M.O. I've never seen him offer up any evidence for his point of view on anything or make any coherent argument. Just angry and abusive claims that the other person is full of it.

                    I expect that when I disagree with him, but to get that when we actually agree on something (that marijuana prohibition is a bad idea) is somewhat remarkable.

                    Forgive me for not being impressed by the transformation of "Change we can believe in" to "It could be worse."

                    by expatjourno on Mon Jan 18, 2010 at 03:15:57 AM PST

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      •  ps, still waiting on that answer nt (0+ / 0-)

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