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  •  It doesn't take a rocket scientist or a book (6+ / 0-)

    to come to this conclusion: gender equality must be achieved first and foremost, then all else will flow accordingly.

    •  I appreciate this sentiment very much :) (5+ / 0-)

      and there's plenty of evidence to back it up.

    •  Gender equality is one of the things examined (9+ / 0-)

      But it's not just about gender equality; it's about equality across the board. Gender equality alone is not enough.

      One of the topics discussed towards the end of the book is the difference between chimpanzees and bonobos. Chimps are hierarchal, with dominant males. Bonobos are matriarchal, and status is not as important as fairness. It's a fascinating comparison to see how differently the two types of primates behave and the social order they build.

      "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

      by xaxnar on Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 11:28:30 AM PST

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      •  Oh, I know, but the world order won't change (2+ / 0-)
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        unless there is gender equality first and everywhere, in all societies, and regardless of religion.

        •  The stats on the basic inequality (4+ / 0-)
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          in culture after culture on this planet? Who still controls most of the wealth in this world, and who, in more societies than not, has no legal rights outside of marriage? Amazing stuff.

          I keep an 1890 wedding photo of my maternal great-grandparents on my bedroom dresser. Why? Several reasons. One is my great-grandmother's attire, a long, heavy dress, a fake bosom, a heavy bone corset that restricted her movements and her breathing. When that photo was taken, women didn't vote. If a girl from her background had wanted to go to college, she would have been told, "Sorry, that's for your brothers."

          Taken less than 100 years before my birth, mind you.

          It's still changing, is my point. Still getting slowly better.  

        •  Can't argue with that, except (4+ / 0-)
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          I'm not sure we can pick one single type of inequality to fix first - we have to address all of them or we end up with the old divide and conquer problem in which the groups which could solve a problem together go their separate ways instead.  

          Given the way women are being shafted over abortion in the HCR debate, I can certainly see why you would feel strongly about this, but if you can turn it into a larger argument about fairness for everyone, you'll potentially have more allies.

          "No special skill, no standard attitude, no technology, and no organization - no matter how valuable - can safely replace thought itself."

          by xaxnar on Sat Jan 09, 2010 at 01:58:21 PM PST

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