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  •  I ask how one should discuss this (1+ / 0-)
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    Is mentioning FDL is off-limits? Is the path they choose and the tactics they embrace beyond reproach?

    I think they are divisive and on the attack. I think this endless attacking is hurting a progressive agenda and using the language of the conservative movement way too often in those attacks. I think it is a problem. If I am wrong, please let me know why what I see as endless attacks are not actually attacks. Please let me know how these tactics are useful for a progressive agenda.

    I think we need to re-learn how to unify, but if one can not even criticize the tactic of progressives using conservative talking points to attack Democrats, then I do not know where to begin a conversation towards unity.

    The management of FDL has embraced the tactic of using conservative talking points to attack Democrats. While they are not the only ones to do this, they are the ones who took this tactic to the extreme of embracing Grover Norquist. I've used the term "FDL" as shorthand for those who embrace conservative talking points to attack Democrats. I can see how that could be misread as not everybody connected to FDL has been embracing this destructive tactic (and I think it is a destructive tactic, if I'm wrong, please let me know why I am wrong and why embracing this tactic is a good thing).

    I think there are many ways to criticize the President and Democrats in Congress and that there are many things they should be criticized for doing or not doing. I just do not think progressives should embrace, use and validate conservative talking points, memes, groups and rhetoric to make these criticisms. That tactic is the source of my problem with FDL and anybody else using it. If my prose is not conveying a focus on criticizing a tactic over individuals then I must apologize for that sloppiness.

    I am trying to separate issues and feelings that have become tangled. I am trying to think this through. I see this tactic as a problem and I think it should be called out as a bad idea. Jane over at FDL has become a champion of this tactic as a smart progressive tactic and strategy for change. I think she is wrong here and I am dismayed that that any criticism of this tactic has become off-limits.

    I am trying to understand this mess. I would like the circular firing squad to be dismantled, but if even discussing that this is happening is wrong then I'm not sure what we should do next.

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    by dengre on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 04:27:40 AM PST

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