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  •  What kind of idiot thinks they can get closer (2+ / 0-)
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    blueness, second gen

    to passing a public option by voting for Brown?!
    I know the public is gullible, but I doubt THAT gullible.  

    There is something wrong with those numbers, or with the way they are being interpreted.
     

    "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

    by lgmcp on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:01:02 AM PST

    •  There is no public option, that's the problem. (6+ / 0-)

      My reading is: if the choice is Baucus' bill or no bill, then they voted for Brown and no bill.

      •  Voting for someone who hates healthcare (2+ / 0-)
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        blueness, second gen

        as a way to get more healthcare?  I don't buy it.

        "The extinction of the human race will come from its inability to EMOTIONALLY comprehend the exponential function." -- Edward Teller

        by lgmcp on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:09:56 AM PST

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        •  Don't forget (0+ / 0-)

          They already have healthcare reform in MA.

          Liberals and conservatives are two gangs who have intimidated rational, normal thinking beings into not having a voice on television or in the culture.

          by Dave B on Wed Jan 20, 2010 at 11:34:13 AM PST

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        •  Voters in MA already have state mandated health (4+ / 0-)
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          Dave B, flubber, lgmcp, Fiona West

          care. They wanted a public option to drive competition and hence lower their health insurance premiums. They already have all the health care they need and Baucus' crappy bill really doesn't help them. Their actions indicate that they preferred Brown and no HCR over Baucus' crappy bill. They sent the message that the WH, regardless of what they say now, did say they were for a PO on the campaign trail. Bottom line, MA voters have sent the message -you don't have my back, then I don't have yours.  

          The real question is whether the WH, Congress and Senate are smart enough to get it. For all the spin on the VA governor fiasco, Dems seemed to miss the point that Deeds didn't start to tank until he said he would opt VA out of the public option if he were elected. Polling in VA also showed that the majority of voters wanted a PO.

    •  The Baucus Bill is Genuinely Unpopular (7+ / 0-)
      There is something wrong with those numbers, or with the way they are being interpreted.

      I don't think you quite get it.  Things much like in the Massachusetts poll has been seen in many national polls.

      The Baucus Bill is unpopular across the political spectrum.

      The whole idea of the government forcing every citizen to buy fake insurance from crappy private health insurers is unpopular across the political spectrum.

      And the public option is popular across the political spectrum.

      It's not just this one poll.  It's what pretty much every poll sees.

    •  It called twisted logic. (1+ / 0-)
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      vets74

      Arnold S. CA Gov how again did he become a gov, yep, twisted logic.
      2000, Gore, a good many who voted for Nader thought there was no difference between Gore and Bush, twisted logic, Bush2 was appointed by SCOTUS.

      1998 here in MN a conservadem ran against a DFLer, Jesse the body won, twisted logic.  MN is in almost 20yrs of repubs as govs.

      The repubs do not do these type of things.

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