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  •  Obamas first year shows his lack of experience (2+ / 0-)
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    When he was running for president the right began to yell and scream about him not having enough experience, this is part of what they were talking about.  He lacks the experience of a seasoned politician.  As a result he doesn't know how to work with the system and make the system work for him.

    I think he actually thought that he was a different kind of politician, and that he was going to be able to run things in a totally different way.  And if the democrats in congress were willing to suddenly change the way they operate it might have worked.  Sadly though congress is too set in its ways to change overnight.  Obama learned last year that even with overwhelming majorities, it still takes a lot of work to get anything done.

    Hes still got 3 years though, and I expect him to do a lot better this year then he did last.  Expect over the next couple months Obama to lay out some more easily obtainable goals and then doing his best to accomplish them.

    And with flaming swords the Aramites did pierce the eyes of their fellow men, and did feast on what flowed forth.

    by Knat on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:09:37 PM PST

    •  Sort of. I think he over-estimated (1+ / 0-)
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      people.  In IL, he got Repubs to work with him on things that matters, and were important, by appealing to their reason and desire to do what was right.  Federally, the Repubs want to get more seats, and they know that stonewalling him and being huge asshats will get them that, and they don't care about what is right.  His experience as a community organizer taught him that people are smart, and will fight for themselves and what they need.  Not so much.  Hopefully he has taken a big spoonful of cynicism and understands what's what at the federal level these days.  Hopefully.

      "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

      by DrJeremy on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:16:21 PM PST

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      •  There are ways he could have gotten GOP support (0+ / 0-)

        He made health care his centerpiece and over reached.  Instead he could have pushed for a more moderate plan that could have gotten some republican support.  There are parts of HCR that it is very difficult to disagree with, if he had made HCR a condensed down bill that just dealt with those issues, some republicans would have supported it, others would have looked like idiots when their vote against it was brought up in 2010, and he could have gained momentum.

        And with flaming swords the Aramites did pierce the eyes of their fellow men, and did feast on what flowed forth.

        by Knat on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:24:33 PM PST

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        •  We don't pass HCR, we are screwed (0+ / 0-)

          in November.  Repubs know that too.  We lose seats, who do you think gains them?  It's that simple.  Senator Zoolander voted for pretty much the Senate bill when he was in the MA legislature, because it was a Repub bill.  His schtick is that he votes for all Repub bills and against all Dem bills, and he campaigned on doing the same thing in the Senate.  That's all.  Why would they help us hold seats?  

          "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

          by DrJeremy on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:28:59 PM PST

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          •  So they wouldn't be on the wrong side (0+ / 0-)

            It wouldn't be to help democrats hold seats.  If there was a health care bill that simply sought to make health insurance more affordable, it would be very difficult for the GOP to vote against it.  Some of the more conservative ones would, but a lot wouldn't want to face their constituents with that on their record.  It wouldn't give all American's coverage but it would be a great improvement and something that the Dems and Obama could point at as a success.  Then at some point over the next 7 years Obama could make another push specifically to guarantee coverage to all Americans.

            And with flaming swords the Aramites did pierce the eyes of their fellow men, and did feast on what flowed forth.

            by Knat on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:40:50 PM PST

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            •  The GOP is screaming that healthcare (1+ / 0-)
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              reform is only for those uneducated unemployed Dems, as all of us are, you know.  And that their very wealthy and successful base (hahahahahahah) doesn't need socialist policies, which will lead to Nazi-ism, as Glenn Beck tells them every day.  These people, many of whom have neither healthcare nor teeth, are convinced that healthcare reform is bad.  What can you do with that?  There is no downside to any Repub voting against HCR, except for Olympia Snow, who will lose her seat next election.  Oh, and Joe LIeberman, who is motivated by nothing but spite.

              "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

              by DrJeremy on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:48:43 PM PST

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              •  Everyone at least knows someone (0+ / 0-)

                who's been screwed over by the American heath care system.  My younger brother was denied coverage because of a pre-existing condition, hes healthy as a horse.  My mother has lived a very healthy life and her health insurance costs 900 dollars a month.  I have a friend who last year flew out of the back of a pick up truck, he required stitches, he had no internal injuries, no broken bones, but wound up with a 90,000 dollar medical bill.

                I can go on but I think I've made my point.  If a bill is drafted that makes life easier for the people who are currently suffering under the current system, without creating something the GOP can point at as a hostile takeover of the medical system at least several republicans will have to vote for it.

                And with flaming swords the Aramites did pierce the eyes of their fellow men, and did feast on what flowed forth.

                by Knat on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 11:15:42 PM PST

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      •  The rpugs are showing up in elections (0+ / 0-)

        because Obama is black and because they think he's socialist.

        Could you point out why will the 18-29 year olds and the good government independents or the democratic base at large will show up in the mid-terms?

        •  No, I can't. That's why we (2+ / 0-)
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          need to pass HCR now.  Call, call, call.

          Pass the damn bill!

          He's losing his base, and he needs to do something about it.  And we need to help him by showing our Reps and Senators how we feel.  They never hear from us.  Time to change that!

          "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

          by DrJeremy on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 10:32:20 PM PST

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        •  And, I just have to say that those (2+ / 0-)
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          kids from Northeastern who were at the Obama/Coakley event were the saddest bunch of posing losers I ever saw in my life.  They were so excited to see Obama, but couldn't be bothered to vote for Coakley.  They thought it was funny that people were even asking them to.  ["umm, election?  Is there an election?" hahahaha, let's mock the earnest volunteer, (who um, gets to go see the president and you don't, snap)] Because they are sooooo freaking cool.  Ugh.  Funny, until they get sick.  So clueless.  And I know I will get called all sorts of names for this, but it is what it is.  

          "I can't go to sleep. Someone on the internet is wrong!"

          by DrJeremy on Mon Jan 25, 2010 at 11:00:03 PM PST

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