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View Diary: Armando's Challenge, Or The Informed Citizen's Guide To The 2004 Election (389 comments)

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  •  Hmmmmm, well (none)
    without ANY help from the media the Barbara Boxer petition alone has, at last viewing, gathered nearly 30,000 signatures.  See

    Also, has gathered over 400,000 signatures to investigate the vote

    When you compare this event to Watergate--a scandal that didn't have anywhere near the amount of evidence we have for this VoterGate scandal--AND

    When you compare this event to what brought down Clinton,

    I have to wonder what would it take to get someone to do the right thing around here.

    Separation of Church and State AND Corporation

    by Einsteinia on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 06:11:38 PM PST

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    •  I agree (4.00)
      that's why I called out the frontpagers yesterday. My point was, this is a news story with at least as much 'evidence' and information as the WA recount, but relative silence on the frontpage.

      I don't see our problem as getting the certified results challenged, I think it is convincing citizens like Del Dem that there is a serious problem that needs to be investigated now, not 2 or 4 years from now when the Democrats lose even more seats and the Repubs get more sophisticated at voter suppression...

      and for that we actually need exposure... hence why I was adament the frontpage was important, no crucial.

      Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

      by spiderleaf on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 06:16:17 PM PST

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      •  Mandate (none)
        declared immediately by the Prez! agenda forthcoming.

        It is crazy how much this sounds like the Ukraine!

        ...people will always vote for the sunshine, not for the darkness

        by missliberties on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 06:48:16 PM PST

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        •  I was watching a documentary (none)
          today that followed a Ukrainian Canadian women on her journey to the re-vote in Ukraine as an election observer.

          The one point she kept making over and over to prove irregularities and fraud was that so many citizens showed up to vote and were not on the books, hence they had to cast "provisional ballots"

          It really turned my stomach and ruined my day ;(

          Jaded Reality... I've had enough spin for today thanks...

          by spiderleaf on Sun Jan 02, 2005 at 06:54:43 PM PST

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