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View Diary: Armando's Challenge, Or The Informed Citizen's Guide To The 2004 Election (389 comments)

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  •  I don't see why that's the only appointment. (3.00)
    The 6th is our first appointment. Are we giving up if we don't win the challenge? Because we're not going to.

    I think our next appointment has to be with a doctor who will pioneer a new treatment -- i.e., legislation like Rush Holt's. And because we know that'll be blocked, we need to initiate other proceedings in court.

    I don't understand what's left to fight about in this analogy.

    I'm for paper trails. I'm for open source only voting machines and auditability. I'm for investigations into voter suppression efforts. I'm even for the electoral challenge on the 6th, even though we'll lose. And I'm for more (and frankly, better) attorneys filing more and better lawsuits to try to find a way into those machines.

    What else would you like to test me on? Name it, and I'll see if I can agree to it, if that's of any interest to you.

    What separates me from most of you, apparently, is that I like to approach these frustrations with the idea in mind that there's a solution I can lay out for the specialists who are empowered to help me. I don't just sign petitions asking them to figure it out for me.

    They can't seem to do it. They're too busy fundraising. So I'd like to figure out the system myself and give them a blueprint, so that there are fewer excuses not to follow it.

    That's what I'm about.

    •  Where we differ (4.00)
      I guess, is that I have little confidence that meaningful reform will happen without great pressure from the public.  No matter how thoughtful and useful of a blueprint you could provide, it would get fed into the law making machine, with Republicans at all the controls, and would come out the other end as an  ineffectual mishmash of legislation, chock full of money making opportunities for partisan constituents and almost unrecognizeable compared to your original blueprint.  

      I want maximum visibility of these issues now, before the coronation.  For petesake, many Americans are completely unaware that there are serious voting problems.  Why would a legislator give this any kind of priority, when their constituents are so blissfully unaware?  I believe that public awareness is as much a part of this mess as is a good blueprint.  We are approaching a very good chance to wake people up.  I don't think we should waste it.  I say sign petitions, send LTEs, send emails, make this important to people.

      •  Sure. Fine. Go. (none)
        There's nothing counterproductive about public pressure and a public awareness campaign, provided it's well-founded. That's what I thought Armando's challenge was supposed to draw out.

        It might have happened sooner. That would have been nice. And a more coherent statement of the issue might have arisen on its own, without prodding. But it didn't. And I don't see that as the fault of "elite bloggers."

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