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  •  please make sure (12+ / 0-)

    all your Ohio peeps get infected with your enthusiasm!

    ;D

    and LTEs, baybee!  for serious.

    People are upset Obama hasn't solved all the problems yet. C'mon, he's only been in office one year...the man went to Harvard, not Hogwarts. - Wanda Sykes

    by Cedwyn on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 10:18:52 AM PST

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    •  I'm all over it like (9+ / 0-)

      flies on rice :-)

      In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's mind there are few. - Shunryu Suzuki

      by thenekkidtruth on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 10:26:03 AM PST

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    •  Are you sure (1+ / 0-)
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      FistJab

      you support her? She disagrees with the WH on the Senate version of the health care bill.

      Is the WH planning to buy her off?

      "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

      by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 01:40:43 PM PST

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      •  my goodness (4+ / 0-)

        are you always this boorish?

        wishing me ill with no health insurance wasn't enough for today?

        People are upset Obama hasn't solved all the problems yet. C'mon, he's only been in office one year...the man went to Harvard, not Hogwarts. - Wanda Sykes

        by Cedwyn on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 01:49:45 PM PST

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        •  Brunner disagrees with you (0+ / 0-)

          Why would you support her?  

          "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

          by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 01:57:59 PM PST

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          •  I don't think I've ever supported (3+ / 0-)
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            Clarknt67, ppl can fly, Remsicle

            a politician who agreed with me on the finer points of every issue.

            Do you write-in "Betty Pinson" on every ballot?

            •  So you feel health care (0+ / 0-)

              is a "minor issue". Ok, you're entitled to your opinion, but hundreds of millions of Americans disagree with you.

              "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

              by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:01:30 PM PST

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              •  quotation marks are used (0+ / 0-)

                when you are quoting someone.

                I did not use the phrase "minor issue" in my post, so if you're going to use that phrase in response to the above comment, you shouldn't put quotation marks around it.

                That aside, I don't think health care is a minor issue. I think Brunner and cedwyn disagree on a finer point (you can quote that) regarding legislative strategy and the acceptability of certain peripheral funding provisions, but, based on what I know of both, have very similar ideological tenets and goals.

                •  Regulation of the health care industry (1+ / 0-)
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                  is a very important issue, not a "finer point".

                  All those promises to voters that they won't lose insurance when they get sick, will not be discriminated against for pre-existing conditions, etc. may seem minor to some, but voters have been paying very close attention to them and are counting on Democrats to deliver on those promises.

                  That said, putting a structure in place to back up those promises with real regulation is very important.  The House bill does that, the current senate bill doesn't.  

                  We spent a great deal of national debate time discussing the need to adequately regulate the insurance industry, particularly when we are preparing to hand them trillions of our tax dollars to subsidize health insurance premiums.  Failing to create a strong system to regulate and oversee how those tax dollars are spent would be a major mistake for Democrats.

                  I'm sure good Democrats like yourself would never want to be in the position of making promises to voters they can't deliver.  Check this site and see diary after diary, story after story, about people who have been denied care due to regulatory abuse by the insurance industry.  It is an important issue.

                  "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

                  by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:23:08 PM PST

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                  •  Courtesy link (0+ / 0-)

                    to help you learn more about the issue

                    Side by Side Comparison of House & Senate Health bills

                    http://www.kff.org/...

                    Story about controversy over Obama press secy Gibbs making false accusations about Rep. Dennis Kucinich

                    http://rawstory.com/...

                    The same inaccurate story has been repeated many times here on DKos

                    I don't ever recall Bill Clinton making false accusations against an Ohio Democrat in Congress.

                    "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

                    by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:29:11 PM PST

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              •  I"m baffled, Betty, (4+ / 0-)

                as to what your problem is. Jennifer is a strong single-payer advocate who is practical enpough to say we can't get there from here but we need to start moving there. Like my congresswoman, she will advocate strongly for her position, but knows when we've gained all we can at this particular time.

                Stop Rob "The Job Outsourcer" Portman. Jennifer Brunner for Senate http://www.jenniferbrunner.com/

                by anastasia p on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:56:16 PM PST

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                •  don't bother (1+ / 0-)
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                  betty's problem is me, specifically.  she doesn't like what she imagines my position on HCR to be and so here we are.

                  People are upset Obama hasn't solved all the problems yet. C'mon, he's only been in office one year...the man went to Harvard, not Hogwarts. - Wanda Sykes

                  by Cedwyn on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 06:36:51 PM PST

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        •  asdf... (2+ / 0-)
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          Just HR'd the linked comment in the other diary. Positively disgusting.

          "Women shouldn't be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of women." droogie6655321

          by earicicle on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:00:22 PM PST

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      •  are you sure you support Brunner? (2+ / 0-)
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        Cedwyn, Olivetrue

        Because being this obnoxious isn't going to help her win supporters.

        My first preference is fixing the Senate bill via reconciliation, but I also support passing it unmodified as a last resort.

        I also support Jennifer Brunner.

        I don't see any conflict in holding these positions.

        •  Absolutely (3+ / 0-)
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          ppl can fly, FistJab, Olivetrue

          I've supported her for years.  I trust her on health care issues, she's worked closely with some of the best - including Ohio's Sherrod Brown.

          I'm very proud of all the hard work Ohio's Dems (including Dennis Kucinich) have done on health care reform and sadly can't support the White House when they treat them badly.

          "The only thing new in this world is the history that you don't know". President Harry Truman

          by Betty Pinson on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:00:17 PM PST

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          •  So why stalk and threadjack? (0+ / 0-)

            Politics is like playing Asteroids - You go far enough to the left and you end up on the right. Or vice-versa.

            by Jonze on Sat Feb 06, 2010 at 02:14:50 PM PST

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