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  •  Great example of this is HCR (10+ / 0-)

    The public wants certain things. They don't get that so they dislike the bill while continuing to like certain things like the public option. We are told by DC "oh the public hates the public option or is uncertain about it because look at the polling numbers for hcr." When in fact one number has nothing to with the other. What the HCR is showing is not that people care about process, but that they care about how the bill will affect their  lives. They don't want something in between the GOP and Democrats. In some cases, they want what the GOP has to offer, and in other issues, they want what the Democrats have to offer. You can not pull a Solmon splitting of the baby as a way to address that. You have to accept that they want the public option but not the excise tax. But DC follows its own logic, so they end up with a bill with the excise tax that the public hates, while leaving out the public option that the public loves because dc is using process to obscure accountability while the public remains concerned with the policies that will affect them directly.

    •  Very, very well put. (5+ / 0-)

      "Bipartisanship" is an inside-the-Beltway obsession to which both parties pay lip service.  When the GOP is in power, "bipartisanship" means twisting Democratic arms to vote for Republican initiatives. When the Democratic Party is in power, "bipartisanship" is the desperate hope that a largely imaginary center can legislate to the right of the stated positions of the Democratic Party.  The former form of bipartisanship is less illusory than the latter; with the notable exception of the Bush tax cuts, the last administration usually got a good chunk of the Democratic caucus voting for its most odious laws.

      The difference between the two forms of bipartisanship has to do with at least two factors: 1) we don't have a center-right country, we do have a center-right political class that dominates our punditocracy; 2) the folks paying the piper in the Democratic Party are more at odds with the party's electoral base than the folks who fund the GOP are with its base.  Many Democrats want to be "forced" to move to the (perceived) center, and bipartisanship forms a kind of frame for this move.  There are a few issues about which the GOP does this (i.e. abortion....they're happy to nibble around the fringes of reproductive freedom, but they will never pass the Human Life Amendment that the Christianists want), but the Democrats--especially in the Senate--do this on issue after issue: EFCA, the PO, our various wars, etc. etc.

      Meanwhile, outside the Beltway, people are less ideological, support a mix of the positions of the two parties (not the same thing as supporting the center on anything necessarily), and want, most of all, to see s**t get done and our lives improved.

      Stop Obama's Wars Now! Bring the Troops Home!

      by GreenSooner on Sun Feb 21, 2010 at 08:00:23 AM PST

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