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  •  John Birch Society? (0+ / 0-)

    That might mean he's nuts, but it doesn't mean he's a racist.

    As to Don Black, beats me.

    I understand that he's contributed about $1,500 to Paul's campaigns.

    I'm sure that's had a big impact on Paul's positions, the same way that nearly $10,000,000 from financial institutions explains President Obama's role in all those Wall Street bonuses.

    Seriously, though, I would need to know more. As I posted above, I could see why white supremacists would feel a certain kinship with libertarians.  I can't imagine many groups with a stronger incentive to want the government out of their lives.

    Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

    by dinotrac on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 05:53:38 PM PST

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    •  The John Birch Society is a racist, anti-semitic. (0+ / 0-)

      organization.  Speaking at it does certainly imply hes a racist.  Would you give a free pass to someone who spoke at the CCC or the KKK?

      And w/r/t Don Black, theirs the money, the pictures with him, the refusal to disavow his donation, the accusations that he routinely meets with white supremacists, the newsletters under Paul's name that could have been written by Don Black himself, etc...

      •  Would you give a free pass to somebody who (0+ / 0-)

        defended the right of Nazis to march through Skokie, Illinois?

        How about an organization that has repeatedly defended the rights of the Ku Klux Klan, and individual Klansmen?

        What makes somebody a racist is the belief that race matters in some way that makes one race superior over another.

        A racist might well speak to the John Birch Society or tak money from a white supremacist.

        By the same token, I believe that President Obama spoke to a group of Republicans without being a Republican and spoke to the world's Muslims without being a Muslim.

        What, by the way, did he say to the Birchers?

        Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

        by dinotrac on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 07:22:07 PM PST

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        •  There is a difference between defending an (1+ / 0-)
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          organizations right to free speech, and speaking at their 50th anniversary celebration, citing the group as:

          "The John Birch Society is a great patriotic organization featuring an educational program solidly based on constitutional principles. I congratulate the Society in this, its 50th year. I wish them continued success and endorse their untiring efforts to foster 'less government, more responsibility ... and with God's help ... a better world.'"

          As Ron Paul did.  Would you mind someone saying that at a 50th anniversary celebration of the KKK?

          •  I would mind. (0+ / 0-)

            Must go in and look more deeply at Birchers.
            Til I do that, will equate them with paranoid nuts, not racists.

            Free speech? Yeah, I've heard of that. Have you?

            by dinotrac on Tue Feb 23, 2010 at 07:47:53 PM PST

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