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  •  There was NO "Progressive bashing" (2+ / 0-)
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    Quite the contrary. There was bashing of fringe lunatics who call themselves "Progressives", yet exemplify none of the progressive ideals, instead demanding they be allowed to impose their fringe lunatic politics on everyone else, and if everyone else does not toe their exact line on every issue they happen to care about, they are "sellout enemies no better than Democrats which is why I voted for Nader twice and will again we should form a third Party ROnPaulRonPaulRonPaul Revolution 2nd Amendment FTW".

    Nothing at all progressive about that shit.

    Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

    by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 02:53:56 PM PST

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    •  I've never even met a single person who voted for (2+ / 0-)
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      Nader.

      And I've lived in the Liberal Mecca's  of Austin, Seattle, and New York City... the talk of Naderites is a straw man.

      Although I did watch the documentary "An Unreasonable Man"

      Your comment however reeks of the fringy fringiness that loves to make shit up for the sake of creating controversy. I bet you have a collection of Bigfoot photos.

      Baby's on fire And all the laughing boys are bitching, Waiting for photos, Oh the plot is so bewitching-- Brian Eno

      by jethrock on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 03:05:57 PM PST

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      •  I have. (1+ / 0-)
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        Just because you haven't met any you assume they don't exist? Your personal attacks are uncalled for, BTW.

        Sarah Palin has all the answers in the palm of her hand.

        by kitebro on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 03:56:08 PM PST

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        •  HR me for invoking Bigfoot then. Sorry, (0+ / 0-)

          that was obviously too much for you to handle.

          I guess it's ok to bash Progressives but it's not ok to call someone out on it.

          Baby's on fire And all the laughing boys are bitching, Waiting for photos, Oh the plot is so bewitching-- Brian Eno

          by jethrock on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 04:04:02 PM PST

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      •  There are many here (0+ / 0-)

        And if you actually cared about facts, you'd have done a basic search on the keyword "Nader".

        You'd have found this, from just two days ago:

        The more the dems keep letting me down
        The less I regret my vote for Nader.

        I think the common thread between the Tea Party folks and the "Democratic Wing of the Democratic Party" is the Tea Party people see the GOP selling out to the wealthy elite with the bailout and we see the Dems selling out popular progressive issues and instead pushing unpopular issues for the wealthy elite.

        http://www.dailykos.com/...
        That comment got ten recs.

        And this one, from a few weeks ago:

        IT'S ALL TURNING TO SHIT

        and BTW, Ralph Nader is correct: we have a ONE party (corporate controlled) system.

        http://www.dailykos.com/...
        That commenter has a tagline quoting frequent Lew Rockwell contributor and famed "Father of Reaganomics" Paul Craig Roberts saying, "Essentially, Obama is irrelevant".

        And, a few weeks before that:

        at least nader

        wouldn't have done this:...

        http://www.dailykos.com/...
        (blah blah blah long list of Obama "horrors" which I won't past here)
        Also with multiple recs

        Don't even have to look that far back - this is from today:

        It's third party time

        Dems = Repubs = Corpororatists.

        We need a third party stacked with men/women like Sanders and Grayson.

        So is this, from today:

        Remember this

        next time Kossacks start jumping down the throats of those of us who voted for Nader in 2000.

        half a dozen recs for that.

        And this, also from today:

        This may sound goofy, but I have been wondering lately just how much worse things could have been if we had elected McCain.

        Also from today:

        Well, we've tried the third party option

        Hell, I voted for Nader in 2000. It didn't work. The Democrats couldn't capitulate faster. Sitting there and taking it doesn't work. Not voting doesn't work. I think the only option is to stay for the long game and go for a party takeover.

        I'm tired of cutting and pasting the links, you could have done your own homework, and if you doubt these quotes just search for them here.

        Also recent, most from the past two or three days:

        I myself will not vote again for Obama

        I don't think that as of now Obama deserves a second-term.

        Ron Paul and Nader? Meh. Ron Paul and Alan Grayson? A lot of potential to forge a new consensus, imo.

        Ron Paul and Alan Grayson would be formidable duo.

        Nader was right

        Just yesterday:

        well love him or hate him  

        Nader was right about the parties

        Got NINE recs.

        A day earlier:

        I voted green in 2000

        and don't regret it a bit.

        ELEVEN recs.

        Same day:

        The more the dems keep letting me down
        The less I regret my vote for Nader.

        Six recs

        Not to mention all the crazies calling for a third party:

        fed up

        whatever Coakley does, I'm fed up and ready for a third party

        Let's not forget Obama = Bush - there are literally dozens of those every single fucking day.

        By the way, I'm by no means the first or only person to note the rise of the loud lunatic fringe here, and their connection to the Nader and/or Ron Paul brigades. As oldskooldem noted just today:

        People are on here every day of the week saying there is no difference between Democrats and Republicans and there is no difference between Labor and Likud.

        Bottom line is when you're so far out in the stratosphere... Like Ralph Nader-land... everything to you is far right, whether it is, or it isn't.  The fact that some people here think Mother Jones, Democrats, and Labor are all indistinguishable from their conservative counterparts is indicative on those people's believes.

        I guess if you really, really, REALLY don't want to see something, and you shut your eyes REALLY REALLY tight, you may possible avoid seeing it, even though it is screaming you in the face right here.

        Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

        by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 06:34:39 PM PST

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    •  Actually (2+ / 0-)
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      Democrats are a center-right party. So Progressives are right to want to break off with them.

      •  I wouldn't go quite that far... (0+ / 0-)

        But about ten in the Senate and too many Blue Dogs in the House fit your description.

        Not enough to call the Democratic Party "a center-right party"

        ...but enough for them to be a pain in the ass.

        Baby's on fire And all the laughing boys are bitching, Waiting for photos, Oh the plot is so bewitching-- Brian Eno

        by jethrock on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 04:13:31 PM PST

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      •  I'm a progressive, and have no interest in (0+ / 0-)

        "breaking off with" The Democratic Party.

        Studies show that only 9% of Democrats feel Obama has compromised too much with the GOP. I happen to believe that progressives account for more than 9% of the Democratic Party. Statistics back me up on that.

        Therefore, this extremist position does not represent the mainstream of the progressive movement.

        Since this site is about electing Democrats - better, more progressive Democrats, for sure, but Democrats nonetheless - your position does not represent the mainstream of DailyKos either.

        I stand by what I said initially, and I am not surprised to see it validated. It didn't take long for the mirror tea partiers here to emerge and talk about division and splits and taking their ball and going home if they are unable to impose their minority views on everyone else.

        Always make new mistakes - Esther Dyson

        by RandomActsOfReason on Thu Feb 25, 2010 at 06:04:57 PM PST

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