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  •  This assumes the "vast audience" is held in a (0+ / 0-)

    thrall to the theater of the absurd.
    Absurd republicans being exposed as absurd by an absurd notion by the WH that people give a damn to have to go through another impromptu layer of absurdity just to prove this is absurd.

    The Republicans were right about one thing: This was theater.

    •  Of course it was theater. (0+ / 0-)

      Hence the vast audience. Who could resist a showdown? Because that's what it was, for all the talk of serious bilateral consultation. Folks knew it. They were supposed to know it, and show up with their popcorn.

      I'm sure many came for the visceral appeal of a 'high noon' confrontation, and a first-of-its-kind spectacle to boot.

      Whatever they came for, they got a peek at the backstage machinery, and also acquired a little education about the issues. And that's important if carrying people with you is as important as enacting the legislation through procedural finessing.

      Lay off the footwork and throw a punch! ~ Joe Bageant

      by gotgat54 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 07:13:23 AM PST

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      •  Fair enough. (0+ / 0-)

        But I don't think the people got a look at the backstage machinery.  That involves lobbyists and to a much higher degree that these shows distract from.

        The deals are made with the professionals that work the politicians, Republican and Democrat.

        •  Sad but true. (0+ / 0-)

          However, if that's where the real action is, then why be such a stickler for legislative procedure and rules and other bits of protocol? Those too are theatrical posturings after the fact.

          Not disagreeing with your take on how it's all lobbyists and 'professionals'. But that's all the more reason why Obama would wish to stage something like this -- and, I hope, a few encores as well -- so as to whip up a tide of popular opinion.

          Politicans listen to that too. It's not all lobbyists.

          Lay off the footwork and throw a punch! ~ Joe Bageant

          by gotgat54 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 at 07:45:15 AM PST

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          •  If you stage something you do it to grab (0+ / 0-)

            control of the public discourse to take with you to negotiate the legislative product you need to pass.
            You can resort to an appeal but 11th hour campaigns with such complicated legislation have little effect.
            This is the horse trading hour.  And it's obvious that the trading can't be done with the Republicans.
            The Democratic Party is actually in a pitched battle with itself and it will be interesting to see how they pass this and preserve the stability of their majority.

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