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  •  they don't have the power to silence anyone. (0+ / 0-)

    You can't realistically compare this to what they did to Galileo or the victims of the Inquisition. They can kick you out of their private club, that's all. In which case, why would you want to be in it, anyway?

    Break the Cornspiracy! Eat grass-fed.

    by ubertar on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 06:51:53 PM PST

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    •  they do have the power to silence (2+ / 0-)
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      homogenius, LynneK

      And have done so in many ways, even in recent years to clergy, writers and faculty and have made clear that they intend to do more. And they do not take well to criticism.

      Teaching and writing careers, salaries, health insurance, pensions and more can be at stake, just like for anyone else. It is about more than what you derisively refer to as a "private club."

      Don't worry. I get it that you 1) don't care and 2) don't think its important.

      But I do. And I am not a Catholic.

      The Church is, you like it or not, enormously influential in the U.S. and elsewhere. It owns vast amounts of real estate, profoundly influences top elected officials, and plays a powerful role in shaping politics and public policy. And more.

      There are many people who want their church not to move in rightist directions. In the past, it has been far more progressive on many matters than it is today. Progressive Catholics are an important voice in helping to prevent this important institution from becoming more reactionary. They speak for many who are unable to do so. I hope they are able to continue to do so.

      •  Thank you. nt (0+ / 0-)

        866-338-1015 toll-free to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them.

        by cany on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 07:13:50 PM PST

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      •  If they are, in fact, silencing people, (0+ / 0-)

        it would be a good idea to give some actual examples in your diary. You say they have done so in many ways, yet list not one single example. You say they've made it clear they intend to do more, but don't say how or where they've made that clear, and what is meant by doing more. "Issuing guidelines" sounds pretty mild. If there's something worse going on, you've neglected to report it here, so it shouldn't be too surprising that, yes, I don't think this is all that important.

        Break the Cornspiracy! Eat grass-fed.

        by ubertar on Tue Mar 02, 2010 at 07:25:34 PM PST

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        •  In my diary (2+ / 0-)
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          I wrote what was in the SSRC study, no more, no less.  

          In the course of this thread, since the conversation expanded, I did mention that there have been cases of people being silenced in a variety of ways, and by way of example, linked to a diary just this past week by Frank Cocozzelli who discusses resistance to the silencing of dissent and repression of difference in the church. Here it is again. Franks also usually posts his Talk to Action diaries here at Daily Kos. I commend them to you.

          Off the top of my head, we could point to the silencing of a generation of liberation theologicans, beginning most famously with Leonardo Boff of Brazil. We could point in recent years to the silencing of noted German theologian Hans Kung. There was the silencing of prochoice American nuns some years ago.

          But this diary was not about that. It was about the unambiguous concerns, documented in a serious academic study of the explosion of issues related to blogs. I quoted from the study regarding the Vatican, a prominent American cardinal, and specifically the lead blogger at one of the flagship journals of religious neoconservatism who commented on the study at the invitation of the SSCR.

          The silencing of Catholic dissidents is not a fact in disupte. In fact, it is one of the raging controversies in the Church. Here, for example, is a Washington Post story that discusses one aspect of the matter.

          VATICAN CITY -- Some quantitative measures of John Paul II's papacy are well known: He visited more countries, named more saints and issued more teaching documents than any other pope. But there is another statistic that is seldom mentioned here: By some estimates, the Vatican silenced or reprimanded more than 100 Roman Catholic theologians during John Paul's 26-year reign.

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