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  •  sure it does. (3+ / 0-)
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    California doesn't buy TX textbooks because TX won't conform the books to their standards.  (I will grant you that California doesn't have money for ANY textbooks, but that's sort of a side issue here.)

    Now, if your state is just as bad, why blame Texas for the content of the textbooks?  It looks to me like they're just supplying what is being demanded.  

    I don't love the books any more than you do.  But when you can get Alabama to raise its education standards, then is when it might be appropriate to blame Texas for the shoddy quality of their textbook content.

    Join us in the Grieving Room on Monday evenings to discuss mourning and loss.

    by Dem in the heart of Texas on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 06:37:50 AM PST

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    •  sorry, but disagree (2+ / 0-)
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      $$ trumps all in this discussion.  

      •  but that's my point. (4+ / 0-)

        If the "Free market" for textbooks insisted on products that were actually decent, Texas would climb all over itself to produce something decent.

        Texas is its own textbook purchaser, and we in the state are working on our SBOE's sanity, in hopes of changing it from the inside.

        But it is also incumbent on other states to insist on higher standards, instead of just complaining about the product and shelling out $$ for it.

        I guess I'm just tired of hearing about all those sub-par books that are simply being FORCED on other states against their will.  It takes two to make a sale.

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        by Dem in the heart of Texas on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 07:03:24 AM PST

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      •  I agree, however, how about forming (1+ / 0-)
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        a buying group of several states to challenge the buying power of Texas?

        "Kindly go render the fat in your head in a large kettle of boiling water. Thank you." - Bumblebums

        by balancedscales on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 09:12:08 AM PST

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      •  When you consider that public schools are usually (0+ / 0-)

        funded by property taxes, schools just do not have the money.

        Property values have gone down and with them the amount of taxes collected.

        School budgets are under heavy pressure. Spending more money on textbooks is just not in the cards when you are having to cut everywhere else.

        "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -- Jonathan Swift

        by Jane Lew on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 12:41:26 PM PST

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    •  Even though it is now possible (2+ / 0-)
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      to print books to order, book companies do not want to do this because it limits their profits.

      Text book companies want to make one version of textbooks because they make more money that way.

      To  enforce what is best for the book companies, they prohibitively price orders for nonstandard textbooks. If each state orders made-to-order texts, the price goes straight up. Especially in these rough budgetary times, states can not pay the extra costs associated with bespoke textbooks.

      My children did not go to public schools in Alabama. They went to public schools in...guess where...Texas. The public education there was 10 different kinds of awful.

      In in case, I will only be in Alabama until next week. I am leaving the United States to live elsewhere.

      "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -- Jonathan Swift

      by Jane Lew on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 08:00:37 AM PST

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      •  eBooks're threatening textbook hegemony. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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        •  It... (2+ / 0-)

          It also means it can be changed at will...think about that for a while...electronic only books, think how easy history is to change...

        •  It isn't just eBooks (2+ / 0-)

          Facsimile editions of out of print books can be reprinted. In genealogy these are extremely common. One web site I visited offered 10,000 titles most of which are printed to order. They do not have the book in stock; only when they receive an order do they print a one-off copy.

          Printers can print a facsimile copy in full or in part.

          In colleges professors often put together their own textbooks from various sources. By requiring their students to use these "books" professors can augment their salaries.

          Some colleges do not allow this. There are potential problems if the professors include copyrighted material for which they do not have permission.

          eBooks are promising. I don't have one yet. How do they handle non text material...pictures, illustrations, graphs, etc.?  

          I hope the ability to highlight several different ways and to write long marginal notes is included and that you do not have to back and forth.

          "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." -- Jonathan Swift

          by Jane Lew on Wed Mar 03, 2010 at 12:33:54 PM PST

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