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  •  Newsflash: (8+ / 0-)

    There are school administrators who don't know what they are doing.

    •  You didn't read the whole news flash! (0+ / 0-)

      They fired the principal and assistant principals!  We all know that simply firing half the teachers may create more problems than it solves.  That's how disfunctional districts operate.  If the districts and the teachers are going to make things work they have to push their union negotiators to the side long enough to figure out a mutually beneficial solution.  We don't know exactly what the conversations were.

      •  I was responding to your comment (0+ / 0-)

        extolling the virtues and hard labor put in by administrators:

        The superintendent and all their administrators in the school work until their job is accomplished even if they have to stay late and come in early.

        and the sole blame you're placing on teachers for students' poor education:

        should the teachers who fail to educate the children in the district be paid for their work anyway regardless of whether they work hard or put in extra effort?  

        •  It's that black and white is it (0+ / 0-)

          Teachers and Administrators shouldn't be paid by the hour but by the job- that was my only point.  If it takes 8 hours of school time to teach the kid so be it.  You know as well as I that there is only so much budget to pay salaries- sure we could cut some teachers and pay others more but what's the sense in that?  If you have no more answers and simply tell the District to go jump in the lake then you know why this District resorted to such desperate measures.

          •  Since you're the one whose comments (1+ / 0-)
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            I'm quoting, if anyone is making black and white statements it's you.  Consequently, if you don't like those kinds of statements, I suggest that you not make them.

            •  Too Defensive Aunt Martha (0+ / 0-)

              You really won't deal with anything I bring up will you.  I guess it's safer to stay in a political shell, but that's more what I see on the conservative sites than here.  Not a left-wing teabagger are you?

              •  Too funny! (0+ / 0-)

                I quote you and you accuse me of black and white thinking when I do so.  And then when I remind you that the thinking that you think is black and white is yours you accuse me of being defensive and make other nonsensical accusations.

                As someone once said, the angel of irony is flapping her wings.

                •  You are mistaken (0+ / 0-)

                  You put words in my mouth "extolling the hard labor and virtues of administrators", "putting the sole blame on teachers" I said no such thing, nor do I believe either of those things.  So when you say you are simply quoting me you are being disingenuous- I called you on it and you simply engage in rhetoric.  I'm a pragmatist.  You and I didn't even discuss the real issues.

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