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  •  Teachers and Their unions are the most attacked (8+ / 0-)

    and vilified labor group in the US, despite being the LOWEST paid, most abused and MOST IMPORTANT laborers in the country.  Thier salaries and benefits have been chipped away for years, and when they finally take a stand -you call that a ridiculous stance?  

    Praytell, just what are these "ridiculous stances" you accuse teacher's of taking?

    I suspect you actually know doodley about teachers, teaching or unions.

    You're right about the administrators, though, they are half responsible for the whole mess.  They are anti-union hacks with little to no classroom experience, no leadership experience or skills, and with an high rate of incompetence.

    Who is the other half of the problem?  Who else?  The parents.  They have them for four to five years before they enter school, and 18 hours a day (or more).  Parents ought to - need to - be teaching their kids every day, but they suck at it.  They ruin their kid's education and blame the teachers for their mess.

    Instead of cutting teacher's pay, they should be raising it.  That would attract better talent.  Vilifying and stabbing them in the back tends to scare real talent away.

    •  Sorry, you sound like someone making excuses (0+ / 0-)

      We all know that the union is not the problem but unions do have to deal with the problems in the individual schools not just take a cookie cutter approach given to them by their national or state headquarters.

    •  I actually know quite a bit about teachers... (0+ / 0-)

      my mother and my mother-in-law both taught for many years under the auspices of some powerful Teachers' unions in the Northeast.  I largely agree with you and respect the Teachers' unions, but a riduculous stance is not allowing a bad teacher to be let go or reassigned.  Taking all that you said into consideration (I mentioned those same points in a post earlier), some teachers are legitimately bad - get rid of them - they taint the profession.  I agree that teachers should make more.  As for parents, I couldn't agree with you more.  That is a significant part of the problem in inner city and poverty-stricken schools.  My mother moved from teaching to counseling and the stuff she used to tell me about what children were dealing with at home would make your hair stand on end - there is no way kids can be productive coming from some of these homes.  But I still contend that schools have to be structured to deliver the social services these kids need or there will never be any success.  Isolate the ones that absolutely can't be helped and let the rest get an education.

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