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    * homoeroticism/homophobia - Tyler: "Ender's Game reminds me very much of works by Lewis Carroll and Horatio Alger where unusually resourceful children struggle in frightening situations that would tax the abilities of most adults. Like the works of the other authors, I found Ender's Game to be extremely erotically charged: the discussion of the boys insulting each other with the epithet "butt-wiggler" and then the naked shower scene gang(rape) fight was just too much. If one closely reads this scene there is so much immoderate attention placed on the state of Ender's Body that it is hilarious. "His body still had soap on it, and his sweat moistened it, made his skin more slippery than Bonso would expect." (147) and then again, "the sweat was streaming down Ender's body. Now, before the soap is carried off me. Now, while I'm still too slippery to hold." (148) I don't think it is a delusion of a too dirty mind to assume erotic motivation when an author focuses on the state of a body's lubrication above anything else in an all male brawl. These lines make this scene camp gold. I found it so hilarious when I was reading it. Barely any adjustment of this scene is required to turn to into all out erotica. / Take the usage of the term "bugger" from the shower scene, "Because he's the best, that's why! Who else can fight the buggers! That's what matters, you fool, the buggers!" (148) I recalled a sexual slang use of this term. As urbandictionary defines it: "Technically means to sodomize, but most people use the word in a variety of situations, often without realizing the true meaning. / It is often considered these days to be more acceptable that the word 'fuck' (as long as you are not in the presence of anyone old enough to remember the actual meaning)." I feel like OS Card is not even bothering to be subtle here. It's hilarious. This scene is so much less thinly veiled than anything in Carroll or Alger. / There is also early in the novel a strange passing misogyny that further emphasizes the intense male-male atmosphere of the text. Asking about the training compound Ender asks, "All boys?" and the response is, "A few girls. They don't often pass the tests to get in. Too many centuries of evolution are working against them. None of them will be like Valentine, anyway. But there'll be brothers there, Ender." (17) Don't think about girls you will have brothers to replace them. / A particularly hilarious line from page 116, "Ender thrust his gun between his legs. "I can see fine," he said, and proceeded to flash the boys directly under him. "Stop me!" he shouted, "Try and flash me!" "Thrust his gun between his legs"? When do you ever have to fire a weapon between your legs? Hilarious! I wish one could get this homoerotic camp brilliance from drop quoting any piece of literature, unfortunately it's only to be found in the implicit (barely so at times) homoeroticism of Orson Scott Card's Ender's Game. [...] I just saw this online. I didn't get a chance to read through it all yet but it seems Orson Scott Card has trouble with homosexual marriage:
    http://www.ornery.org/...
    Making all this even more bizzare. My ad-hominem interpretation is it is hard to do all the repression oneself it's easier if the government can step in and pick up some of the burden on one as self-hating and closeted." - Aimee: "I agree with you Tyler. I did get the feeling of homoeroticism many times during the book but I purposely overlooked it because the book dealt with little boys; prepubescent boys that have not reached their sexual peak. When I think back to the scenes that you have pointed out, as well as other scenes, like in the barracks where the boys walk around naked, I feel a little disgusted. Is OS Card a pedophile? I really don't want to think about this because I really enjoyed the book!"

    BlackKos Tu/Fri. (better not discuss GLBT issues with 4th graders on dkos!) eggs, brd, milk.

    by terrypinder on Mon Mar 08, 2010 at 08:52:46 AM PST

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      I don't even remember those scenes but it's been well over a decade since I read the book.  IMHO completely gratuitous.

      Yeah, OSC has some issues, i'd say.

      Agreed, easier to do the repressing if the state is helping out.  

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