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  •  but SSA was never a mandate to buy private (2+ / 0-)
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    retirement plans.

    Tho that may come.

    •  We're getting pretty far afield from my point (0+ / 0-)

      which was simply that SSA as originally passed paled in comparison to SSA today in terms of who it covered.

      I'm not dodging your point - but similes have their constructive limits in a discussion.

      I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

      by zonk on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 03:40:28 PM PST

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      •  privatization of SSA will be coming (1+ / 0-)
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        not too long after private health insurance is firmed up.

        •  Because? (0+ / 0-)

          If you're referring to the conference this past weekend, satan jr (that would Summers to Rahm's satan sr) specifically said that the 2008 market crash has effectively killed any appetite for privatization.

          He did suggest the possibility of providing a sidecar -- an elective contribution into an additional fund administered federally -- but I don't see what the problem is with that.

          I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

          by zonk on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 03:59:15 PM PST

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          •  Ryan Bill is privatization for future generations (2+ / 0-)
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            and lord knows what's coming under the banner of "Entitlement Reform".

            •  And Ryan's plan (0+ / 0-)

              can't even get a sizable minority of GOP co-sponsors.

              As much as I disagree with his plan, I'd much prefer to work with a Ryan - who is at least an honest broker about his policy aims - than most GOPers.

              When you get down to it - we DO need entitlement reform.

              Perhaps I'm being selfish here - but as someone who is of the age where I could be in for the royal screwing - I'm quite happy to see it be taken on.

              Both Medicare and Social Security were architected under a reality -- a majority younger America funding benefits for minority older America -- that simply doesn't exist anymore.

              One way or another, that's just something we need to face.

              I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

              by zonk on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 04:06:04 PM PST

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              •  That you label yourself a realist (1+ / 0-)
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                does not enoble your desire to gut the saftey net on which your fellow Americans rely.

                'cause you know that you can't change shit by ridin' the fence... The Coup

                by JesseCW on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 04:09:35 PM PST

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