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  •  Nope. (4+ / 0-)
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    Social Security covered both women and African-Americans.  In fact, the first American to receive a monthly Social Security check was a woman, Ida May Fuller.  What left most women and minorities out were the types of jobs that were eligible, which were generally occupied by white men.

    You could say Social Security started as a sort of limited public plan.  It kind of makes it clear why moderates and conservatives shy away from even a limited public option.  When people find out how well it works, they want to be included in the program.

    •  Sure (0+ / 0-)

      But you don't think they pulled jobs to exclude randomly out of a hat, do you?

      Despite the fact that it wouldn't be till the 1960s that the post-Civil War amendments really took full effect -- you still couldn't write legislative language that conflicted with them...

      ...so - you got around it by taking stock of the lay of the land and crafting legislation to meet the same ends.

      I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

      by zonk on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 03:38:20 PM PST

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    •  I'd say, too (0+ / 0-)

      If you were in a covered job - participation in Social Security wasn't optional.

      SS worked because everyone paid in.

      That's one of the problems with a public option - how do you ensure it's not just an adverse selection pool?

      I guess everyone's got their own blog now.

      by zonk on Tue Mar 09, 2010 at 03:43:51 PM PST

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      •  One can count on an adverse selection (1+ / 0-)
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        That's why the public option would be sold on an exchange where other insurers could hopefully be assessed to make up for the expected adverse selection.

        That adverse selection is highly desirable because the public option has a lower administrative percentage and would cost all exchange buyers less to make up for.

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