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  •  I suspect you're right. (1+ / 0-)
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    Considering that the Insurance companies are the only growth market in this economy, going to single-payer would have been economic suicide.  I'm strongly in favor of Medicare for all, but equally strongly in favor of living in a house, not a tent.  

    As much as it would be emotionally satisfying to destroy the insurance industry, I'm not too excited about having to pay a high price for the satisfaction.  

    This would have to be a phased-in program, probably over a couple of decades.  I still want to see it happen.

    I am, at heart, an optimist, which I consider to be spiritually necessary and proper, as well as intellectually suspect.

    by I love OCD on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 06:48:37 AM PST

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    •  You need to consider how much potential (8+ / 0-)

      cash this could free-up today for other PRODUCTIVE sectors of the economy. This could be a very stimulative program for small business and entrepreneurs - hell maybe even large businesses.

      •  Really? I'll wait to see the premiums.. (1+ / 0-)
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        "Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - G. Marx

        by Skeptical Bastard on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 07:49:38 AM PST

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      •  My biggest concern (2+ / 0-)
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        is not having jobs available for the hundreds of thousands of people employed by insurance companies.  They are, after all, real people with real families and real bills, not cartoonish villains.  

        There's some room for pragmatism in this whole paradigm shift.

        I am, at heart, an optimist, which I consider to be spiritually necessary and proper, as well as intellectually suspect.

        by I love OCD on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 10:18:56 AM PST

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        •  There will be some dislocation but (0+ / 0-)

          not as much as you might imagine. True, insurers will have to compete harder in most cases but Medicare has very real limits in coverage. Most people will still opt to get some kind of Medicare gap policy, just like those over 65 do. Underwriters are still used for these, claims people, etc.

          Insurers will make adjustments while they sound-off about the world ending, but they will think up new products and revise existing ones. Marketing & sales staffs will be just as important and the same applies to freelance agents and brokers. There will be new boutique products for the high end. So, while there will be some initial bad reaction, the impact will not be the end of these same insurers. United Health Care does a huge business in these type of policies and they simply expand this to the younger age groups.

          •  Think we heard that argument (0+ / 0-)

            when we off-shored all our manufacturing jobs.  And again when we off-shored all our engineering jobs.  I may be wrong, and you're optimism may be justified, but I'm not very trusting anymore when I hear "some dislocation".  I have too many friends who had 6 figure incomes a few years back who are now working for $12 bucks on hour in the service sector.

            Anyone interested in why we have such budget shortfalls needs to look beyond tax cuts and into wages.

            Again, this is just my concern, having been through a very painful kind of adjustment with people I care about.

            I am, at heart, an optimist, which I consider to be spiritually necessary and proper, as well as intellectually suspect.

            by I love OCD on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 02:28:26 PM PST

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        •  You think they could... (0+ / 0-)

          do some construction on new nuclear plants...that would be a good job.../snark

          Obama - Change I still believe in

          by dvogel001 on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 01:17:12 PM PST

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