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  •  fees aren't tied to the price of hardware (1+ / 0-)
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    Garrett

    To those who argue that ETFs are simply meant to recoup the cost of a phone, read this: http://www.freepress.net/...

    The carriers aren't telling us how much their phones actually cost, making it impossible for us to know if we're paying a fair price, subsidized or not.

    •  Exactly (1+ / 0-)
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      If they feel they are losing too much money on these phones (which I seriously doubt, as they are all made with about as much durable quality as a videogame controller) then they should stop pimping such outrageously expensive phones.

      American corporations need to be reintroduced to the concept of competition.  It is one of those features of free-market capitalism which they are apparently unfamiliar with.

      Take America back -- Tax the rich, shove healthcare reform down Republican throats, and grab a mop. DO NOT apologize.

      by slippytoad on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 11:43:41 AM PST

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      •  Why are you saying there isn't competition again? (1+ / 0-)
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        coffeetalk

        Or are you just not looking hard enough?

        Verizon
        Sprint
        Tmobile
        Boost
        At&t
        USCellular
        (insert tons of local providers who ride the larger networks here).

        I mean, seriously?

        If you HAVE to have a mobile phone, go to Walmart, buy a 30 minute phone card and the $30 paygo phone.

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        by DonkSlayer on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 12:27:55 PM PST

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        •  "Competition?" (0+ / 0-)

          Seriously!  The entire ETF scam is there to PREVENT competition.  If you try out a carrier and their coverage sucks, you lose $2-300 if you want to change carriers.

          That is INHERENTLY an anticompetitive tactic.

          Overcharging for the phones, and then using them to lock customers in by offering a "discount" is also an anticompetitive tactic.  It makes the acquisition of an unlocked phone more expensive than most customers are willing to pay, thus encouraging them to be locked-in with huge ETF fees.

          Maybe you also need to be reintroduced to what competition really means.

          Take America back -- Tax the rich, shove healthcare reform down Republican throats, and grab a mop. DO NOT apologize.

          by slippytoad on Wed Mar 10, 2010 at 01:27:41 PM PST

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      •  There's A LOT of competition out there (0+ / 0-)

        not only on carriers, as Donkslayer pointed out, but on hardware.  

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