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  •  Vaccination for those viruses (0+ / 0-)

    creates immunity that lasts for the rest of your dog's life.

    So why give boosters?

    And given that the AVA has known this for years, why is your vet recommending routine boosters?

    Might it be for profit?

    Hmmm....

    --Shannon

    "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
    "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

    by Leftie Gunner on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 01:28:07 PM PST

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    •  I don't happen to have a dog (1+ / 0-)
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      but if I did I'd be reluctant to lose the canine to parvo or distemper for lack of a $30 vaccination.

      You didn't answer my question about flu shots, btw.

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      by BlackSheep1 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 03:32:22 PM PST

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      •  well, actually, I did... (0+ / 0-)

        sort of.

        A single influenza vaccine provides immunity against that particular strain of virus for decades. It's just there are new influenza viruses coming around all the time.

        Influenza is very unusual in this regard.

        You don't get a polio or measles booster shot... because they aren't needed. For most viruses, periodic exposure is all that's required to continue the protection for life. Which is probably why we're seeing an uptick in shingles (adult chicken pox)... we vaccinate children for it now, so adults who've had it are not re-exposed anymore, and the immunity fades.

        And it's not just about the 30 bucks, (actually it's 5 bucks as I vaccinate my own dog), nor even about the unethical practices of the vets pushing them. Any medical procedure has risks. Those risks are balanced against the benefits, and an informed decision is made. When there is no benefit, any risk at all drives the risk / reward ratio to infinity.

        --Shannon

        "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
        "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

        by Leftie Gunner on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 05:29:07 PM PST

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        •  flu strains change and mutate (0+ / 0-)

          yearly (if not oftener), as you say.

          The pneumonia shot is supposed to be good for life.

          There are certain other shots required (or boosters needed)
          and as we are finding out about more and more viral diseases,
          "immunity" wanes with many more organisms than the herpes virus that causes shingles and/or the bug that causes lockjaw.

          Polio boosters are recommended if you're traveling to some countries now, btw -- Africa, India, any of the -istans.

          Measles is one of several conditions for which a series of vaccines is now recommended.

          Texas is NO Bush League! LBJ, Lady Bird, Sully Sullenberger, Ike, Molly Ivins, Barbara Jordan, Ann Richards, Drew Brees -7.50,-5.59

          by BlackSheep1 on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 08:00:55 PM PST

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          •  Dogs live for 10 - 15 years, (0+ / 0-)

            humans 60 to 80 years.

            That makes an enormous difference to the proper practice of medicine.

            --Shannon

            "It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees." -- Emiliano Zapata Salazar
            "Dissent is patriotic. Blind obedience is treason." --me

            by Leftie Gunner on Sat Mar 13, 2010 at 01:11:16 PM PST

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