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  •  Big district? (1+ / 0-)
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    Please!  You people in Michigan don't even know what big is.  Talk to Ciro Rodriguez.  Or even my Congressman from NM-03.

    Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden, 8/30/09)

    by Land of Enchantment on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 06:58:22 AM PST

    •  Couldn't find the land area of NM-3 (1+ / 0-)
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      "The district is the second-largest congressional district in land mass east of the Mississippi River. Its boundaries contain much of the northeastern part of the Lower Peninsula in addition to the entire Upper Peninsula. Altogether, the district makes up about 44% of the land area of state of Michigan. It contains the second-longest shoreline of any district in the United States, behind the at-large district of Alaska.

      It contains 30 Michigan counties and a portion of a 31st, comprising almost three-eighths of the state's 83 counties."

      •  To Clarify That ^^ is about MI-1 (1+ / 0-)
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      •  The land area of Michigan is... (1+ / 0-)
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        ... 56,809 square miles.  The area of NM is 121,364 sq mi.  NM-01 is relatively small, Albuquerque and suburbs.  The rest of the state is divided roughly in half between NM-02 and NM-03.  Each of them is probably about the size, or nearly so, of the whole state of Michigan.  Rough estimates, certainly, but in the right ball park.

        Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden, 8/30/09)

        by Land of Enchantment on Thu Mar 11, 2010 at 05:40:48 PM PST

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        •  Actually Michigan is 97,716 sqmi (1+ / 0-)
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          ...so about double your figure.  I have no idea where you got that from.

          •  And regardless of size... (1+ / 0-)
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            ...it's a difficult district.  I drive for a living and have crossed NM on I10-I40 or I25 many times.  

            It's a very different trip than crossing MI-01.  Getting from Ironwood to Bay City is 490 miles and 9-10 hours of driving because of very little freeway.  A much longer drive than crossing NM in terms of time and a little longer in pure distance too.  

            Most people aren't aware Michigan is well over 600 miles to cross from Ironwood or other far reaches of the UP to Ohio/Indiana, a longer drive than any western state with the exception of CA north to south on I5 and MT east to west on I94/I90.

            Not your typical small "eastern" state.

            •  Land area. (0+ / 0-)

              That 97,716 area of Michigan includes water area of the Great Lakes.

              As to the rest of your comment:  Most of NM-03 is nowhere near an interstate, and it's got pretty intense terrain, too - canyons and major mountain ranges.  The state highways aren't all paved.  A trip from Farmington to Clovis is no trivial endeavor, especially if you go via Clayton.  Plus, I'm guessing you're not familiar with the roads on the Navajo Reservation.  (Not to mention the Jicarilla Apache Rez and all the Pueblo tribes.)

              And speaking of Navajo Rez roads, there's this district:

              This one's perhaps even more challenging, if that's possible:

              This one less well known, but the roads are damned challenging.  Mebbe even moreso than in Nevada:

              I "get" that Easterners, even in Michigan, think like that New Yorker map that dismisses the West.  But, really, that district may be big for the region.  And, FWIW, I've driven through that part of Michigan.  What I noticed is that it's mostly pretty flat, and the roads are paved.

              Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden, 8/30/09)

              by Land of Enchantment on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 07:12:24 AM PST

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            •  Whups. (0+ / 0-)

              Left out the NM-03 map, so you can see where Clovis and Farmington are.  (Clayton's up in the NE corner over near Oklahoma.)  And the Navajo Rez is a fair chunk of terrain along the Arizona border.  Jicarilla Apache's up around Dulce.  Pueblos scattered along the Rio Grande (N & S of Santa Fe, and out to the west - Zuni being south of Gallup.)

              Grab all the joy you can. (exmearden, 8/30/09)

              by Land of Enchantment on Fri Mar 12, 2010 at 07:21:38 AM PST

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