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  •  You win "best sentence of the day" (5+ / 0-)

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    These two headlines are going to be difficult to explain when the House holds its vote.

    Awesome.

    Jennifer

    "If you don't feel enthusiastic now, fuckin' fake it." -- droogie6655321

    by jhw22 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 10:44:49 AM PDT

    •  the headlines are accurate, if misleading (0+ / 0-)

      Actually, the headlines are correct: there WILL NOT be a vote on the main Senate bill. The vote on reconciliation will serve as the assent to the Senate bill, but there will not actually be a vote specifically on the main Senate bill, just reconciliation--and by so doing, will also say "and yes, we approve the root bill too."

      Note that I am saying THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS, certainly by precedent if not optics. But it's true on a semantic level (which should be important when parsing headlines) that the main Senate bill will not be voted on, but assented to. There will be a vote to approve the action of assent, but literally speaking anyone's "Yea" cannot be separated into its components. It's not correct to say that a given House Member would have voted Yea on a standalone Senate bill; it's only proper to say they voted Yea on it, AS LONG AS the reconciliation was attached. (Which is of course why they're doing it this way; some Dems would NOT vote Yea on the root bill without the fixes).

      LoadedOrygun.net--Oregon's Progressive Community

      by torridjoe on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 10:59:33 AM PDT

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      •  A vote's a vote. ;) nt (1+ / 0-)
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        axel000

        "If you don't feel enthusiastic now, fuckin' fake it." -- droogie6655321

        by jhw22 on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 11:00:48 AM PDT

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      •  I don't know (0+ / 0-)

        saying that the House will pass the Senate bill "without an actual vote" sounds pretty misleading to me, since there will actually be two votes I believe - one to approve the rules and then one to pass the reconciliation bill itself.

        •  No, I don't think so (0+ / 0-)

          Not according to the diarist--one vote, to approve a bill that a) notes assent to the root Senate bill and b) approves the fixes to that bill under reconciliation. One vote will serve to pass both bills.

          Yes, a vote's a vote--but the vote in this case is to agree to assent, not to specifically say whether you support the root Senate bill...because many Dems don't.

          LoadedOrygun.net--Oregon's Progressive Community

          by torridjoe on Tue Mar 16, 2010 at 11:17:06 AM PDT

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